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Whaler72 posted 08-02-2003 12:09 AM ET (US)   Profile for Whaler72   Send Email to Whaler72  
The first owner painted my Montauk brown(I guess it could have been worse, as he was a duck hunter and could have gone with camouflage). It was actually quite a distinguishing feature like around Dauphin Island they knew me as the guy with the Brown Whaler. I made a silk purse out of it for quite a while.

Now after living with it for fifteen years, the paint is wearing out in patches on the outside of the hull and the white gel coat is angrily glaring out of the patches. Inside I've blasted most of the paint off the floor in numerous car washes and the baby blue floor is only now only sort of muddy looking. The baby blue floor is quite a contrast to the sides of the interior which are still mostly brown with patches of blue where the paint has rubbed off. Its time to remove the paint.

My question is what kind of stripper or paint remover would be safe? Would I damage the gel coat with any of the commonly available paint removers? If I can remember correctly the second owner passed on a can of the original paint but all I remember was that it said Pettit (sp?) on the label.

P. S. hope to pick up a replacement for my 72 Evinrude next week, more on that later. Going to a welding shop tomorrow with my new trailer to get it better fitted.

Whaler72 posted 08-07-2003 10:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whaler72  Send Email to Whaler72     
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dangc78 posted 08-09-2003 06:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for dangc78  Send Email to dangc78     
I have used a product put out by west marine stores, that removes paint without damaging gel-cote. It works well but is a bit pricy. I used maybe a gallon and a half to remove 3 layers of paint on the antiskid floor of a 13.

I tried to email you, but my message was returned. Please update your profile.

JBCornwell posted 08-09-2003 09:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for JBCornwell  Send Email to JBCornwell     
I am interested in what model your boat really is.

Montauks weren't made with the blue liner, and not until 1973.

Perhaps a look in the Cetacea would allow you to identify it.

Red sky at night. . .
JB

Whaler72 posted 08-09-2003 11:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whaler72  Send Email to Whaler72     
JB:

Maybe I don't really know the year - I've been told since it doesn't have a manufacturer's capacity tag that is has to be older than 1973, is that correct? Moreover as I start removing the heavy layer of broen paint maybe I'll find one of those stenciled hull numbers?

Tried 3M Corporation's "Saftest Stripper" today in an inconspicuous spot. After nearly three hours only about half of the brown paint came off. So that's a very slow paint remover but apparently is safe for fiberglass.

As to not being a Montauk, it has the wooden center console, seat attached to the front of the console and a bench seat behind the console. So isn't that a Montauk layout? And doesn't the blue interior indicate something about age?

Appreciate your help! I've looked through Cretecia but don't remember seeing early Montauks (might be mistaken, I'll look again)

Dangc78:

Was just looking at those stripper products on West Marine's web site. There are apparently two that are safe for fiberglass. Don't remember the brand names. But one is billed as biodegradeable( about $16/quart and the other is used with a special paper over it (about $55/gal). Which one did you use?

Don't know what is wrong with my email in my profile, I'll check it out. Thanks much!

BTW: Drove up to Minnesota this week and WhalerSailer installed a 1990 88 hp Johnson for me to replace the old (1972?)Evinrude 100. Today I worked all afternoon on removing old cables and fitting the new cables into the console. Ended up with a number of quesions on what wire is supposed to go where but that's another topic.

Whaler72 posted 08-09-2003 11:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whaler72  Send Email to Whaler72     
JB:

Maybe I don't really know the year - I've been told since it doesn't have a manufacturer's capacity tag that is has to be older than 1973, is that correct? Moreover as I start removing the heavy layer of broen paint maybe I'll find one of those stenciled hull numbers?

Tried 3M Corporation's "Saftest Stripper" today in an inconspicuous spot. After nearly three hours only about half of the brown paint came off. So that's a very slow paint remover but apparently is safe for fiberglass.

As to not being a Montauk, it has the wooden center console, seat attached to the front of the console and a bench seat behind the console. So isn't that a Montauk layout? And doesn't the blue interior indicate something about age?

Appreciate your help! I've looked through Cretecia but don't remember seeing early Montauks (might be mistaken, I'll look again)

Dangc78:

Was just looking at those stripper products on West Marine's web site. There are apparently two that are safe for fiberglass. Don't remember the brand names. But one is billed as biodegradeable( about $16/quart and the other is used with a special paper over it (about $55/gal). Which one did you use?

Don't know what is wrong with my email in my profile, I'll check it out. Thanks much!

BTW: Drove up to Minnesota this week and WhalerSailer installed a 1990 88 hp Johnson for me to replace the old (1972?)Evinrude 100. Today I worked all afternoon on removing old cables and fitting the new cables into the console. Ended up with a number of quesions on what wire is supposed to go where but that's another topic.

JBCornwell posted 08-10-2003 08:06 AM ET (US)     Profile for JBCornwell  Send Email to JBCornwell     
Howdy, 72.

From your description it sounds like you have a Nauset. . . mahogany center console, fixed bench seat.

Red sky at night. . .
JB

Whaler72 posted 08-10-2003 09:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whaler72  Send Email to Whaler72     
JB:

How bout that fixed rear seat (looks like a bench and has a couple of rod holders) Could it be an Eastport ala:

Eastport....c.1961 - c.1973 center console, mahogany, adds rear seat

Whaler72

JBCornwell posted 08-10-2003 11:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for JBCornwell  Send Email to JBCornwell     
If it has the rear seat, then Eastport is more likely. I thought you had only the console seat and the front seat.

Red sky at night. . .
JB

JBCornwell posted 08-10-2003 11:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for JBCornwell  Send Email to JBCornwell     
If it has the rear seat, then Eastport is more likely. I thought you had only the console seat and the front seat.

Red sky at night. . .
JB

Whaler72 posted 08-10-2003 11:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whaler72  Send Email to Whaler72     
JB:

Sorry for the confusion, I only have a total of two seats I think the Eastport had three according to some of the posts. Still haven't seen a picture of an Eastport showing all three seats so not sure. So I'm going to search more on Nausets.

Thanks for your help!

Whaler72 posted 08-17-2003 10:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whaler72  Send Email to Whaler72     
Hi all:

I've been working hard on the paint removal these last three days of a long weekend. I've gotten most of the paint off the outside except for the bottom of the hull. Based on advice herein, I've been using Peel Away for Marine and followup with Easy Off Oven Cleaner rubbing with plastic scrubbing (like steel wool but plastic).

It's been very slow and a little discouraging. I've found a lot more of those small stress cracks in the gel coat than I knew about and there are areas that are chipped up by small colusions and bad docking. Another disappointment is that the white outside of the hull is apparently UV faded as it is more ivory looking than white.

I guess I'll try rubbing compound as I have a buffer. Is rubbing compound better than wet or dry sandpaper, anybody have an experience?

Whaler72 posted 08-17-2003 10:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whaler72  Send Email to Whaler72     
Opps, almost forgot. The hull serial number has shown up on the rear wall of the motor well! It is 3A0071 as best as I can make out. Anybody know if this is a correct serial number for a Nauset (apparently I don't have a Montauk as I have a wood console)? I also found the old registration papers and it shows that the rig is a 1971. So maybe this thread should be "Top side paint removal on a 71 Nauset"? Also might have to change my handle to Nauset71?
Tom W Clark posted 08-17-2003 10:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
Whaler72,

If the stenciled number is really 3A0071 then you have a 1969 or 1970 model boat, not a 1971 or 1972.

Whaler72 posted 08-20-2003 10:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whaler72  Send Email to Whaler72     
Tom:

Thanks for the comment on the year - I'm only going by the registration. How can you tell the year from the hull id? Also somebody said that these id's start with a 3 but it sure looks like an 8 but still my best guess at the id is
3A0701

Also I sent an email to BW with this ID hopefully they will clear up my ignorance.

Chuck

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