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gvisko posted 08-25-2003 09:07 PM ET (US)   Profile for gvisko   Send Email to gvisko  
How would you guys lock a 13' whaler to a mooring ?
a rope seams to simple to untie. maybe a chain and padlock?
does anyone have any tips the water were its going to be moored is only 4' at high tide and I have a 100lb
mushroom the area is very safe in back of my neighbors house
in the bay and there are a lot of boats moored there but you never know any tips?


thanks george v 18 outrage & 13gls

home Aside posted 08-26-2003 08:23 AM ET (US)     Profile for home Aside  Send Email to home Aside     
I've used a vinyl covered bicycle cable with built in lock, through the bow eye. Used it in mooring and docks...it keeps the honest people honest and gives a little peace of mind when far from home. But having been in law enforcement for 30 years, I know if someone wants your boat, car, etc, they're going to have it, by hook or crook...

Pat

Peter posted 08-26-2003 10:14 AM ET (US)     Profile for Peter  Send Email to Peter     
George,

I'd be leary of the lock rusting up in the salt environment. Years ago I left a 13 footer with a pull start engine tied to a mooring in a harbor with other boats. I never had a problem. However, I used to run the gas out of the carburator and take my gas hose with me so that anyone planning to take it for a ride would have to bring their own hose.

jimp posted 08-26-2003 10:49 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimp  Send Email to jimp     
gvisko -

Make sure your insurance is paid up and don't worry about it. How's that for piece of mind?

We've moored on Great Peconic Bay for over 50 years without problems using just a snaphook. But that's not to say that some idiot wants to joy ride in your boat. Line can be cut easily, so if you want piece of mind, use chain all the way to the mooring eye and shackle it to the bow eye and tighten it with pliers. A lot of work.

But, if I wanted the boat and the mushroom, I'd take that too.

JimP

BillB posted 08-26-2003 11:27 AM ET (US)     Profile for BillB  Send Email to BillB     
I agree with Jimp....no lock...I'm guessing that the bay you refer to is the Great South Bay, where in the not so distant past the preferred method of removing a motor,locked to the transom, was a chainsaw!!

In many cases of theft the lock just results in more damage and loss. Not all thieves are kind enough to use bolt cutters. From what I've seen (ex inland and ocean marine insurance broker) a lock might deter a joy-rider, but anyone bent on theft will get what they want.

BillB

SpeedBump posted 08-26-2003 12:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for SpeedBump  Send Email to SpeedBump     
I used to keep a Classic '13 in a cove on Barnegat Bay in about 3" of water (MLW) for years. Never had a problem with joy riders or vandals. Originally had a 25HP rope start evenrude w/o control box later moved up to a 40 Yamaha w/ electric start.

Used a cast iron radiator as a mooring weight with about 10' of chain and then 4' of 1/2" nylon rope to a SS snap shackel to the eye bolt and a second 3/8" line off the chain to the norman pin for insurance.

When a good 'nor easter hit, and we get several a season, the boat would just bob ontop of the waves like a cork. it was a beautiful sight to behold. made you happy you owned a Whaler, never had a problem.

Kept a 500 GPH rule pump in motor well and a full mooring cover when away for extended period and always came back to a dry boat.

Now I keep my Nauset pretty much the same way but I reverted back to a three anchor mooring as outlined in Chapman's and had previouly used with my sail boat. Still a beautiful sight to see during a storm as it bobs away defying the odds..

The three anchor system is an excellent system, It held my sail boat through Hurricane GLoria until the SS snap shackel failed and the boat was beached, The shackel had a casting defect which created the weak link in the system. The three anchor mooring however with chain and line stayed intact.. I probably would not have had a problem had I had a secondary line to a bow cleat as I do today.

SpeedBump posted 08-26-2003 12:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for SpeedBump  Send Email to SpeedBump     
Two other things-
1- Insurance for a 13' is cheap
2- Stay away from locks, I have never found one that didn't sieze up in one away or another. That included very expensive stainless steel ones. If some one wants your boat the'll get it and not care about damage caused by doing so.

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