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rmart posted 10-01-2003 08:27 AM ET (US)   Profile for rmart   Send Email to rmart  
It appears I may have been taken advantage of by a fellow [participant] of this site.

I recently purchase a used Outrage Stern seat that for my Outrage 18. Going into the purchase I knew the seat was not in good cosmetic condition and would need to be re-upholstered. Having a friend in that business I was fine with the purchase and never bothered to measure the width of the seat, since the Seller repeatedly said it came out of his friend's 18-foot.

However, despite the seller's repeated assurances that the seat came out of an Outrage 18, when I brought the seat home I found it and the support bar to be apporxiately 3-inches too wide.

Could anyone provide me with the correct dimensions for this seat and/or a schematic of the same. I would like to bring the seat and a schematic of the proper seat to my friend and have it re-cut to proper width.

Thanks in advance.

Plotman posted 10-01-2003 10:23 AM ET (US)     Profile for Plotman  Send Email to Plotman     
Depending on the year, I know that there were different gunwale configurations on the Outrage 22. It stands to reason that there may have been similar changes in the Outrage 18.

Perhaps your situation can be explained by this factor: slight differences between the model years rather than by malfeasance.

David

bkovak posted 10-01-2003 01:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for bkovak  Send Email to bkovak     
I have a new Montauk stern seat that I was planning to mount in my Outrage 18. It is 60-inches wide and fits in both my Montauk and in the Outrage. Fits the Montauk like a glove and appears to have at least 6" to spare across the Outrage 18. Measure across your stern in front of the well and knock off 2-3 inches to play it safe.

--Brian

seasled posted 10-04-2003 09:52 AM ET (US)     Profile for seasled  Send Email to seasled     
The same thing happened to me.

I bought [a used stern seat] on e-Bay that the seller said came out of an Outrage 18. Guess what--too wide. After offering it for sale on this site, I decided to rework it.

I had the stern rail shortened to fit between my gunwales. I took 5 inches out of the middle. Next came the seat itself.

I took all the upholstery off and used the wooden parts for patterns. After some carefull measuring I came up with a 64 inch seat base. I cut the old base down and used it for the pattern.

After it was cut, I refinished the wooden support pieces and installed them in place.

Now the hard part: the [seat] back! The old seat back was a three piece affair with one piece in the middle and two bent side pieces. Its [design/construction] was [poor]. I don't know who made these seats, but they should be shot! I could do better.

I found that a 12-inch wide 8-foot long piece of plywood was exacly the right length to wrap around the base. Using the old side pieces, I traced out the curves and then cut with jigsaw. Now I had a nice flat back piece. I marked the end were the curves would be at 12 and 22 inches from the ends. Using a square I marked about 20 lines where I made relief cuts with a plywood blade and circular saw, being careful to only cut through the first two plies. I took the whole piece and soaked in my pool cover over night. The next day it was really easy to bend.

I [bent the new seat back to the proper shape and] clamped it to the seat base, then let it dry for a week. Then I used [fiber glass and resin] to fill in the saw cuts. Now I have a very strong one-piece seat back.

The next step will be to get it in the boat and mark out where the stern rail cleats will go. I will use some scrap plywood as back up pieces on the inside. Instead of just wood screws I'll use stainless T-nuts an bolts. As for the foam pads they are easy to cut down in the center using your electric knive. Keep all your old upholserty for pattern as well. I'll let you know how this turns out.
--SEASLED

cdnturbo posted 10-04-2003 11:22 AM ET (US)     Profile for cdnturbo  Send Email to cdnturbo     
Thanks for the great information. My seat back is rotton on the corners and I need to replace my seat back.

Your ideas will work great.

Phil

jimh posted 10-05-2003 09:08 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
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rmart posted 10-05-2003 10:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for rmart  Send Email to rmart     
Does anyone have a diagram for the OEM stern seat for the 18' Outrage?

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