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Gene in NC posted 10-05-2003 11:46 PM ET (US)   Profile for Gene in NC   Send Email to Gene in NC  
What manner of stand or rig will make OMC V4 engine stable and accessable for repair? What is a good way to store V4s? Unfortunately we'll have four off the boats over the winter.
kingfish posted 10-06-2003 10:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Strangest thing - I thought I replied to this post earlier today, and now my reply is gone...senior moment I guess-

Anyway, I just designed and built a rolling motor stand for a 90 HP Johnson out of 2x4 stock and bugle head screws with 4" soft tire castors from Lowe's for $80 or $90; the castors were more than 1/2 the cost of the project.

Let me know if it would help if I put together a sketch of what I did for you (I threw away the original hen-scratchings).

kingfish

Jarhead posted 10-06-2003 10:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jarhead  Send Email to Jarhead     
That makes two of us kingfish because I thought I READ your reply earlier...
kingfish posted 10-07-2003 09:12 AM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Thanks Jarhead - I needed that.

I was beginning to wonder if I'd gotten a little further around the bend than I thought I had.

Gene in NC posted 10-08-2003 02:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for Gene in NC  Send Email to Gene in NC     
Sorry bout posting here and in Marketplace but decided after posting that Marketplace might get more action. Finally got right on Search and there are only four total hits and two of those are wanteds.

Engine stand must be useful to others besides where2 and me.

kingfish posted 10-08-2003 03:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Well that solves the mystery for me about the post that I *thought* I had made - it's over in Marketplace! (Whew!)

So I take it you don't need a sketch of the motor stand I'm using?

mtbadfish posted 10-08-2003 04:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for mtbadfish  Send Email to mtbadfish     
Kingfish,

I'd be happy to get a copy. I'm a big fan of your sketches. I'll be needing a stand in the relatively near future.

Thanks,
Mike

kingfish posted 10-08-2003 04:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Well, all righty then! (I thought you'd never ask..)

Comin' atcha, as soon as I polish it up. And you'll notice I lied about the whole thing being made out of 2x4 stock; the wedges that simulate the transom angle *can* be cut from 2x4 but I used and drew 2x6.

John

raygun posted 10-08-2003 06:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for raygun  Send Email to raygun     
I too would very much appreciate a copy of the sketch. I am planning on getting my old 86 Evinrude 90 back in shape to finance a new 6 hp Johnson as a kicker.
kingfish posted 10-08-2003 07:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
I'll head one your way, too.

kf

Gene in NC posted 10-08-2003 10:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for Gene in NC  Send Email to Gene in NC     
Kingfish, you bet I need a copy of your drawing. Please!

Nice to see that others are interested too. Seemed strange, with all the DIY spirit on this board, there wasn't an expressed need for engine stands.

Gep posted 10-09-2003 08:26 AM ET (US)     Profile for Gep  Send Email to Gep     
Kingfish,
I could use a drawing of that stand also.
I have two motors that I need to get off of the floor.
Thanks,
Mike
kingfish posted 10-09-2003 08:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
You guys are on the list - I'll probably get the sketches (front, side view, etc.) out today.

kf

kingfish posted 10-09-2003 12:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
You guys have mail...
mtbadfish posted 10-09-2003 01:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for mtbadfish  Send Email to mtbadfish     
John,

Looks great!

Thanks again,
Mike

Gep posted 10-09-2003 03:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for Gep  Send Email to Gep     
Thanks for the drawings Kingfish.
Mike
Gep posted 10-09-2003 04:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for Gep  Send Email to Gep     
John, Your 90hp is a 20" shaft, right?
Mike
JBCornwell posted 10-09-2003 06:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for JBCornwell  Send Email to JBCornwell     
Ahoy, Gene

You might try what I did.

I have a heavy duty dolly that I bought for moving furniture, appliances, etc.

Bolted a chunk of 2"x6" to the top cross piece and hung my Yammy 130 on it with the 2 top bolts (the one that GEP has on his Outrage 18). Keep it as low as you can and still have the skeg clear the foot of the dolly. . .easier to move that way.

I don't know if it was needed, but I had the big nylon strap on the dolly, which I ran around the leg.

Unbolted the pseudo-transom and had my dolly back.

Red sky at night. . .
JB

cyclops posted 10-09-2003 08:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for cyclops  Send Email to cyclops     
Kingfish,

I'd like a copy of your drawing also.

Thanks

kingfish posted 10-10-2003 09:16 AM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Mike-

Good question! Yes it is a 20"er; the 36" vertical face of the stand gives a "transom height" of close to 42" with the 4" castors. In that configuration my skeg clears the floor by almost 8", so it would accomodate a 25" shaft too, as long as you used 4" wheels.

Cyclops-

I'll shoot you one.

kf

John O posted 10-10-2003 09:52 AM ET (US)     Profile for John O    
kingfish, Could I get a copy as well? jpoleary@imation.com

I have a 1988 88hp with a bad cylinder and would like to get off the shipping crate so I can part out.

Thanks

raygun posted 10-10-2003 11:16 AM ET (US)     Profile for raygun  Send Email to raygun     
Thanks a bunch!!
Ray
Gep posted 10-10-2003 01:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for Gep  Send Email to Gep     
I just made mine this morning at work and tried to put my 1978 70hp Johnson on it and found out it was too narrow by about 1/4". My motor needed 14.25" and the space between the uprights was 14".
I just wood chiseled out about a half inch or so to let the motor drop on.
Just thought you would want to know.
Thanks again Kingfish.
Mike
Al_A_Buy posted 10-10-2003 04:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for Al_A_Buy  Send Email to Al_A_Buy     
Kingfish - I also would like a copy of the drawing...

Al W.

kingfish posted 10-10-2003 04:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Thanks for the heads-up, Mike-

So the widest dimension (out to out) of your transom bracket is 14.25"? (Mine isn't much more than 12".)

I thought it was handy to be able to make the whole thing 24" wide, so as to maximize lumber usage, but that does leave only 14" of clear width for the bracket. Those verticals could probably be ripped to 2x3 insted of 2x4, at least where they might interfere with the transom bracket. Or the whole thing could be 26" wide...

kingfish posted 10-10-2003 05:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Al_A_Buy, Cyclops and John O-

You've got mail-

kf

Gep posted 10-10-2003 05:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for Gep  Send Email to Gep     
Kingfish,
My transom bracket flanges out at the top to 14.25" wide for about the top 2" and then narrows down to about 12" wide about 4" down from the top.

Works great. I was wheeling it around the shop today.
I let you know how it works with a bigger motor when I bolt my Yamaha 130 on it.

cyclops posted 10-10-2003 08:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for cyclops  Send Email to cyclops     
Kingfish

Thanks very much. It looks great.

John O posted 10-10-2003 11:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for John O    
thanks Kingfish, Nice job
Gene in NC posted 10-12-2003 10:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for Gene in NC  Send Email to Gene in NC     
Thanks, Kingfish, you do nice work. Any possibility that you could do a folding or a knockdown version. Seems like three strategically placed 3/4 dowels might go a long way toward objective. Space savings obvious but it could also make passing on or sharing easier.
Gene in NC posted 10-12-2003 10:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for Gene in NC  Send Email to Gene in NC     
JB, great idea on the appliance dolly with the 2x6 "transom". I have one but totally missed the possibility. Did you use U bolts to mount the 2x6?

One big advantage is small footprint. Dolly is pretty cheap at Sam's, etc.

Prolly need rig like Kingfish's for stability to wrench on the engine very much.

LuckyLady posted 10-12-2003 10:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for LuckyLady  Send Email to LuckyLady     
Kingfish,
I also would love a copy of your your drawing.
Mahalo, Rene'
kingfish posted 10-13-2003 03:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Rene'-

I have updated files at home - I'll try to get them off to you tonight.

Mahalo

kingfish posted 10-13-2003 03:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Gene- (re: knockdown version)

I'll noodle around a little - I think both ends of the diagonal braces would be no-brainers, but I need to think about the "transom" support legs a little. The connection between them and the base is an important one. I'm initially thinking of 6 or 8 bolts, nuts and washers, maybe in the 3/8" to 1/2" range, rather than wood dowels.

kf

VincentG posted 10-13-2003 09:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for VincentG  Send Email to VincentG     
Kingfish,

If you're not too tired of hitting that "Send Email" button, I'd appreciate a copy of you drawing too. Thanks.

kingfish posted 10-14-2003 05:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Rene' and Vincent-

You have mail-

kf

LuckyLady posted 10-15-2003 01:23 AM ET (US)     Profile for LuckyLady  Send Email to LuckyLady     
Kingfish,
Mahalo for the drawings.
Rene'
Yogi Bear posted 10-16-2003 10:46 AM ET (US)     Profile for Yogi Bear  Send Email to Yogi Bear     
Kingfish
Could I get a copy also?
Thanks,
Andy
kingfish posted 10-16-2003 10:58 AM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Andy-

It should be in your mailbox now-

John

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