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kingfish posted 10-21-2003 03:23 PM ET (US)
I have our Montauk home for the winter from our camp up north, to put her back into shape after 6 or 8 years of abuse in the rocky waters of the North Channel of Lake Huron. Once I got the old girl in the garage and off the trailer, I see that not only is the keel all beat up (I planned to install a keel guard as part of the fix-up anyway), but the V-edges of the sponsons are in pretty bad shape, too.
I'm thinking now about installing keel guards not only on the keel, but on the sponsons as well; has anyone out there tried that, and/or do you guys who have installed keel guards in the traditional location have any opinions as to whether that would be a workable idea?
Thanks-
kingfish
Barry posted 10-21-2003 07:39 PM ET (US)
I haven't used the product but I'm sure I've seen a picture of a Montauk that had that setup. For boating in Lake Huron I think it would be an great idea.
The only concern I've read about with the Keelguard is it's use with keel roller trailers. If your trailer is setup that way you may want to contact Megaware.
lhg posted 10-21-2003 10:50 PM ET (US)
John - I've thought that, for many reasons and saving an old guy like you (!!) a ton of restoration work and expense, you de-rig the entire Montauk interior and rail systems, sell the bare hull and buy a new Alert bare hull for about $7500, and put her back together again. I think Bigshot just did something like that.
And then teach the relatives how to take care of it to your standards!
kingfish posted 10-21-2003 11:14 PM ET (US)
Barry-
Thanks - the only time it's on a trailer is the 1000 mile round trip from Little Current to Battle Creek and back when good old Uncle John decides to work on it every 6 or 8 years or so, but that is on a keel roller trailer. I'll follow up...
Larry-
I was with you until the last paragraph, at least in spirit, as the reality is that no one is going to be willing to pony up their share of such an investment - unless I charged for my time (hmmm!)...Anyway, so far as teaching the relatives how to maintain a boat to my standards, well, I'm not sure we could identify a set of standards to which they could be taught to adhere. I sometimes think what we should have up there to satisfy the unsinkability of the Montauk and the general disregard for boating maintenance, is 2 Stanley aluminum hulls, say a 15' and a 17', one stuffed inside the other with a bunch of styrofoam wedged between them, and then the rocks be damned! Ding it up, get out the maul and the welder...
Arggh! I feel the curmudgeon in me trying to get out-
John
lhg posted 10-22-2003 12:27 AM ET (US)
Charging for your time. Now you're thinking. I'd hate see a Chain Saw Montauk project develop. I can see Tom Clark planning it already.

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Author	Topic: Triple "keel" guard
kingfish	posted 10-21-2003 03:23 PM ET (US) I have our Montauk home for the winter from our camp up north, to put her back into shape after 6 or 8 years of abuse in the rocky waters of the North Channel of Lake Huron. Once I got the old girl in the garage and off the trailer, I see that not only is the keel all beat up (I planned to install a keel guard as part of the fix-up anyway), but the V-edges of the sponsons are in pretty bad shape, too. I'm thinking now about installing keel guards not only on the keel, but on the sponsons as well; has anyone out there tried that, and/or do you guys who have installed keel guards in the traditional location have any opinions as to whether that would be a workable idea? Thanks- kingfish
Barry	posted 10-21-2003 07:39 PM ET (US) I haven't used the product but I'm sure I've seen a picture of a Montauk that had that setup. For boating in Lake Huron I think it would be an great idea. The only concern I've read about with the Keelguard is it's use with keel roller trailers. If your trailer is setup that way you may want to contact Megaware.
lhg	posted 10-21-2003 10:50 PM ET (US) John - I've thought that, for many reasons and saving an old guy like you (!!) a ton of restoration work and expense, you de-rig the entire Montauk interior and rail systems, sell the bare hull and buy a new Alert bare hull for about $7500, and put her back together again. I think Bigshot just did something like that. And then teach the relatives how to take care of it to your standards!
kingfish	posted 10-21-2003 11:14 PM ET (US) Barry- Thanks - the only time it's on a trailer is the 1000 mile round trip from Little Current to Battle Creek and back when good old Uncle John decides to work on it every 6 or 8 years or so, but that is on a keel roller trailer. I'll follow up... Larry- I was with you until the last paragraph, at least in spirit, as the reality is that no one is going to be willing to pony up their share of such an investment - unless I charged for my time (hmmm!)...Anyway, so far as teaching the relatives how to maintain a boat to my standards, well, I'm not sure we could identify a set of standards to which they could be taught to adhere. I sometimes think what we should have up there to satisfy the unsinkability of the Montauk and the general disregard for boating maintenance, is 2 Stanley aluminum hulls, say a 15' and a 17', one stuffed inside the other with a bunch of styrofoam wedged between them, and then the rocks be damned! Ding it up, get out the maul and the welder... Arggh! I feel the curmudgeon in me trying to get out- John
lhg	posted 10-22-2003 12:27 AM ET (US) Charging for your time. Now you're thinking. I'd hate see a Chain Saw Montauk project develop. I can see Tom Clark planning it already.