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tully_mars posted 12-26-2003 06:35 PM ET (US)   Profile for tully_mars   Send Email to tully_mars  
Hi all,

I have converted another boat owner and they went out and purchased a 79 Newport which is in excellent condition. The question here is his boat house has a 3 point lift, but the lifting ring in the bow is under the gunnel cap. Any suggestions on how some other Newport owners have lifted their boats?

Thanks

TM

btw, he will soon be registering here as a new member to learn how to properly care for his new legendary boat.

Curtis Johnson posted 12-27-2003 05:58 AM ET (US)     Profile for Curtis Johnson  Send Email to Curtis Johnson     
The only way I know is with a nylon strap with hooks on the ends that connect to the bow eye and the nylon strap supports the bow, then hooks back together and to the lift. If memory serves there are people who make their own on this site, although the lift operator had one when I did it. I hope this is what you are talking about.
WSTEFFENS posted 12-27-2003 08:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for WSTEFFENS  Send Email to WSTEFFENS     
Tully:

I have only seen one whaler lifted by its towing eyes and bow eye, granted it was a larger boat than your Newport, ( owned a Newport in the late 70's), and it did suffered dammage to its transom and bow eye area. This is because the towing eyes and bow eye are not designed for shear loading (Rt angle) but for tensil or st line loading (a straight pull).

All I have seen (including my old Newport on davits) were either lifted with straps and a spreader bar to prevent hull crushing, or a custom cradle of some sort to support the hull from the bottom similar to a trailer.

Best

WLS

prj posted 12-28-2003 02:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for prj  Send Email to prj     
That's curious WLS, and I don't dispute the damage
that may have occurred nor the tensile vs. shear design of the hardware, BUT
on my 15' Striper there are both TOWING EYES on the
exterior face of the transom and LIFTING EYES on the
interior face of the transom.

With that dual hardware component, I would have
expected BW to design it for the apparent usage,
lifting on davits, and the subsequent shear loads.
I believe I recall a cetacaea article on an 18' Outrage
being lifted from a pier in Northern CA.

On to the BOW and tully-mars' actual question,
again, there is an interior LIFTING EYE and the
exterior BOW EYE (or towing eye) on my 15'.

What I understand tully to be asking is:
how to access that interior lifting eye
which turns out to be BENEATH the Newport cap.

that I can't answer...

WSTEFFENS posted 12-28-2003 04:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for WSTEFFENS  Send Email to WSTEFFENS     
PJ:

The boat I saw was a larger boat a 22 or 25 outrage with a large single V6 outboard. It was a mid 80's mfg and was originally sold in Michigan. It had been stored in a boat house and was lifted by the rear towing eyes on the outside of the transom an the bow eye.

The rear tow eyes had bent upward and had chrushed the outside transom wall. The bow eye had also similar deformation and enlargement of the mounting hole.

As for smaller boats, I can't tell. I truly don't beleve Wilcox Crittenden (I thnk is the mfg of the tow and bow eyes) intended the nut on the tow and bow eyes as a lift point either. Having owned several mahogany runnabouts (read Chris Craft 50's versions) they were delivered with lift rings for and aft, and were installed for tensil loading.

Best

WLS

Bigshot posted 12-29-2003 01:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
2 ways.

1)lifting strap....not a problem on a light hull like this but they do break.

2) buy a lifting eye kit for about $70. You drill through the deck behind the bow bitt and mount the lifting eye. Then a piece of allthread is tied in between the eye and the factory eyelet(under cap). You preload the allthread so that the lifting eye on top of cap and the bow factory eye are basically one. This keeps you from ripping off the cap and puts all the stress where it should be....your front lifting eye. Real simple to do being unless you have a center console, this is the ONLY way to lift from a davit. They also make "pop-up" models if you don't want to see it.

george nagy posted 12-30-2003 10:57 AM ET (US)     Profile for george nagy  Send Email to george nagy     
In a previous life my 18' was lifted via straps(Slings)and suffered some gelcoat damage from the straps rubbing against the sides of the hull towards the bow. I might look into converting that lift to a cradle type.
Waynesworld posted 03-12-2004 05:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for Waynesworld  Send Email to Waynesworld     
Thank Bigshot, I am the one that tully_mars converted. I still haven't got the boat hanging in the lift yet. Where do buy such a fitting to transfer the stress to the lifting eye? Also, just mounted a new motor. It came with a older 120 V4 Evinrude. I was looking for a 4 stroke 90 but ran across a great deal on last years model 115 Suzuki 4 stroke. Couldn't pass it up. Anyone out there ever did this. If so, how was the performance?
Gene in NC posted 03-15-2004 08:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for Gene in NC  Send Email to Gene in NC     
Doesn't TRIBLET have a special three point sling that he uses for one of the CA no ramp sites? Would that rig work for this?
Taylor posted 03-15-2004 03:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for Taylor  Send Email to Taylor     
The three point harness is described in http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/000645.html (search function to the rescue!). I don't have a Newport in front of me, but looking at some catalog shots, I wonder if the angle of the bow cable back to the point where the three cables come together is low enough to come out from under the deck.

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