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greyg8r posted 01-20-2004 03:36 PM ET (US)   Profile for greyg8r  
I bought a new OMC Binnacle Mount Control, part number 176372, to replace my vintage (1982) side mount controls. This is a very nice control for a great price, but it did not include the instructions and I can't find them online.

It doesn't seem too difficult to install, but I would appreciate it if anyone who has the instruction sheet for this would be so kind as to loan it to me.

Thanks

Richard

whalersman posted 01-20-2004 11:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalersman  Send Email to whalersman     
grey,

It sounds as though you have the newer style OMC Binnacle control that has System Check... Is this correct?

The catalogs I have do not list your #176372 but I assume it is either the model without trim in the handle or it has the key switch and lanyard built-in..

I am familiar with the #176371 model which has the trim & tilt in the handle and no built-in key switch (not much difference to the one with the key switch).. I have the Dual Binnacle control with instructions and complete installation and mounting kit which is part #176374...

Did you get all the hardware with the Binnacle?
You should have received: Trunnion Anchor, Cable Pins, Cotter Pins, Anchor Retainer, Retainer Screw, Retainer Locknut, etc. in the kit if you got one.. If not, you may have missing parts...

My first suggestion would be to go to your local dealer and see if he will print you out a copy of the instructions for your model.. Even if it cost a couple dollars... This will also give you a parts list of what you may be missing..

I could scan my Dual instructions but if you have missing parts, you will still have to go see your local Bombardier dealer...

Let me know if I can help...

Joe

greyg8r posted 01-21-2004 12:24 AM ET (US)     Profile for greyg8r    
WM,

This control has trim/tilt in handle and lanyard. It is for newer engines (which required that I buy an adapter for my "vintage" 1982 engine).

Rob, in San Francisco, was nice enough to fax me the instructions. Thanks Rob! I see that I am missing those parts you mention. I knew I was missing the rubber cap over the release button, and my dealer had that in stock. So, I am hopeful that the dealer will have the other parts you mention.

I assume the mounting kit you mention came with the binnacle?

I suspect I will have questions after I get these pieces and start the installation.

By the way, did you install the control directly to the console fiberglass or did you reinforce it? My old control is bolted directly to the console fiberglass, with no support.

Richard

whalersman posted 01-21-2004 01:05 AM ET (US)     Profile for whalersman  Send Email to whalersman     
grey,

Everything I have came included with the Binnacle... The entire kit down to the mounting screws....

I have installed both single and dual controls on Montauks and Outrages with the Center Console... Screwed or bolted them right to the mounting surface of the console... On the Montauk and Outrage, there is reinforcement where the Binnacle is mounted.. I am not sure which model Whaler you have...

I am interested in your instructions as I am thinking about adding these to my Whaler Drawings Web page...

www.sisqtel.net/~jkriz/drawings/drawings.html

Is it possible that you could send me a copy so I could add it the the Drawings page? I have a friend of mine that has the same Binnacle as you but he does not have the instructions either... I plan on collecting as many of these type of instructions as I can so it will help other people in the future...

Good Luck,
Joe

Sal DiMercurio posted 01-21-2004 06:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for Sal DiMercurio  Send Email to Sal DiMercurio     
Joe, I installed a new binacal in 2000 for my 2000 ....200 hp Evinrude & it dosen't come with all the cotter pins retainers etc your talking about, [ no need for them, just the mounting screws & plugins ].
In order for the plugins to work & you have the older type power cable, you need an adapter, or if you have the new cable, it just plugs in.
You will need a jigsaw because the new binacals are far bigger then the old, just scrib around the frame of the binacal & cut it out.
Sal
whalersman posted 01-22-2004 02:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalersman  Send Email to whalersman     
Sal,

My new Dual kit came with everything.. And yes, the cutout is larger then the older style binnacles.

My instruction manual came with several Full Size Cut-Out Templates.
Cut-Out the template and tape it to your console, and cut..

As far as the wiring goes and purchasing an adapter kit, I have some other thoughts..

1. OMC did make the newer style Binnacle "Without" System Check.
Single Binnacle Control Part #175257
Dual Binnacle Control Part #175259
I think it would be possible just to purchase the connector for this style control and wire it in to the existing older system wiring. I do not know the part # for this item.

2. It is possible to remove the System Check Plug-In and wire the Binnacle swith to your older existing wires..
For a Single Switch, there are 3 wires.

Blue Wire = "UP" trim switch terminal
Red Wire = "Center trim switch terminal (Common to both Up and Down terminals.
Green Wire = "Down" trim switch terminal.

I think it would be very simple just to wire in the older style Trim Switch Connector to the newer Binnacle after you remove the newer style connector. This way you would not need to buy an adapter kit..
Save the Newer Connector for later use as you can always put it back the way it was.

Just some ideas and alternatives in case anyone is interested.

Joe Kriz

ratherwhalering posted 01-22-2004 02:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for ratherwhalering  Send Email to ratherwhalering     
There is one available on e-bay right now, with the control adapter kits, for $100.00. $275.00 plus, from a dealer.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=31283&item=2455251297

whalersman posted 01-22-2004 03:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalersman  Send Email to whalersman     
grey,

The binnacle that ratherwhaling has provided the link to shows the part number as 176371.. You list yours as 176372 and you mention yours has the lanyard... I assume it also has the built-in key switch..

If yours has the built-in key switch and lanyard, then your cutout is going to be larger then the drawing you sent me for the single control without key switch... Isn't It? Maybe not?

I also found the part number for the older style connector that can easily be used on the newer binnacles...
The older connector is part #313113
This can't possibly cost as much as an adapter kit... But then again I haven't priced them either...
Just an idea...

Joe Kriz

Sal DiMercurio posted 01-22-2004 05:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for Sal DiMercurio  Send Email to Sal DiMercurio     
My single binnacal cost me in 2000,.....$400 with system check in it.
I love the system check as my check engine light came on [ engine seemed to be running just fine ] & I connected my laptop to the engine & it said, #4 coil wire is not connected.
The engine is so smooth i couldn'r even tell it was hitting on 5 cylinders even while trolling for 3 hours.
Pull the hood & sure enough, #4 coil wire wasen't connected.
The check engine light came on again about 6 months later, connected the lap top to the engine & it said, theres 1/4" of water in your internal filter.
Without the system check, both of these things would have gone un/noticed.
I wouldn't be without the system check now.
Sal
greyg8r posted 01-22-2004 06:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for greyg8r    
Joe,

I'll be glad to give youthe instructions, but I was able to convert them to .tiff form but anything else. Maybe you can convert it.

I have a 1974 Katama. It does not have additional structural support in the console, but the local mechanic said that was not necessary.

I think my dealer has all the little parts mentioned. I am not too worried about that.

I bought adapter kit 96C/95E&BT, part no. 176711. I think it was about $90. It seems to work okay but I am not sure about the trim connection, because the previous owner of my boat had hacked and spliced the trim wires :<(. I think I will have to buy a new trim harness from the connector to the trim control box. That would, hopefully, allow the binnacle mount to plug right into to everything.

Yes, my mount has the built-in key switch and the lanyard.

Thanks for the tip on the cutout. I will measure the control before cutting to make sure it fits correctly.

I have been busy doing dock work for the last few days and not been able to work on the Katama. I will take the boat to the dealer tomorrow and see what else I need and get the small parts.

Until then,

Richard

whalersman posted 01-22-2004 06:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalersman  Send Email to whalersman     
Richard,
Thanks for the offer on the instructions but they have already been sent to me by Robert. The same person you got yours from I believe.

I understand why you needed the adapter kit... This is because you have the newer ignition switch, lanyard, and trim switch connections on the complete Binnacle..

My instructions above were just for the person putting on a newer style binnacle control that did "not" have the ignition switch, lanyard, and trim switch connections.
With this newer binnacle, all they would need to do is wire in the trim leads to the older system... Very simple to change on connector to match the old connector.. The part number for that connetor was given above..

Good Luck with your project and let us know how it comes out.. I have always liked the OMC Controls...

Sal,
I know what you mean about System Check.. Although I don't have it yet, (hope to soon) a friend of mine has it on his 1996 Johnson.. He doesn't have the computerized version, but the System Check warning system is great.

Joe Kriz

jdimig posted 07-06-2008 05:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for jdimig  Send Email to jdimig     
Hi:

Does anyone who originally contributed to this thread still have a copy of the installation manual for the 176374 OMC binnacle?

Im in desperate need.

Thanks!

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