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ALAFIARAT posted 01-29-2004 08:09 AM ET (US)   Profile for ALAFIARAT   Send Email to ALAFIARAT  
Im trying to find a source for the red rubber inserts that are part of the rub rail . Also the white plastic band that goes behind it. Thanks for any help Dave
jimh posted 01-29-2004 08:43 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
A great deal of information about the rub rails on classic Boston Whaler boats is provided in an article in the Reference Section of the continuousWave website.

Rub Rail Replacement
http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/rubRail.html

I just updated the article to include explicit information on the best source of red rub rail replacement inserts. This information was previously published in a forum posting.

Good luck! The red rub rail used on the Newport was a nice touch that set the boat apart from the rest of the Boston Whaler line as having a bit of a sporty flair.

ALAFIARAT posted 01-29-2004 08:50 AM ET (US)     Profile for ALAFIARAT  Send Email to ALAFIARAT     
Thanks jimh Our local BW dealer gave me Jim K. # but no luck yet . But i will keep trying , it may be to cold to go to work in N.C.
ALAFIARAT posted 01-30-2004 09:11 AM ET (US)     Profile for ALAFIARAT  Send Email to ALAFIARAT     
Thanks again jimh .I called Barbour and spoke with Clair . She was very nice and tried to be helpfull ,but they dont keep the red in stock .They could make it but only in 500 lf rolls ,i only need 40 lf . It is only 76 cents per, ft . Any one need 460 ft. just kidding . I will keep looking . dave
ALAFIARAT posted 01-30-2004 09:11 AM ET (US)     Profile for ALAFIARAT  Send Email to ALAFIARAT     
Thanks again jimh .I called Barbour and spoke with Clair . She was very nice and tried to be helpfull ,but they dont keep the red in stock .They could make it but only in 500 lf rolls ,i only need 40 lf . It is only 76 cents per, ft . Any one need 460 ft. just kidding . I will keep looking . dave
Bigshot posted 01-30-2004 02:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
I have tried everywhere to find it in short lengths. I can get Yellow, purple, blue, light blue, green, black, tan, etc but can't find red. I did mine in Green and had new decals made in green to match.....awesome. The tan or black looks really nice as well.
ALAFIARAT posted 01-30-2004 03:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for ALAFIARAT  Send Email to ALAFIARAT     
Bigshot Im still trying to get a mental picture of the green rubrail and decals , i may have to see it in person . I am about 25 miles up the road in Riverview . Also about your Newtauk ,is it a Newport our a Montauk ? I had a 1986 Montauk for 3 years before i lost it to my ex. then got the Newport . The hull on the two are the same just with a gunnal cap all the way around the top edge of the boat . I can look under the cap and see where they cut 2 by 2 in. sections to make room for the cap to bolt down. I have black inserts now but the tan does not sound bad . Mine has a 100 four stroke with a 28 gallon fuel cell under the console, perfect balance . Im on a canal out to the Alafia river,if you ever come up this way let me know so i can check out the green trim . Thanks Dave
Bigshot posted 01-31-2004 10:28 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Doing the Gasparilla thing next Sunday by boat....bunch of us. Also doing Homosassa River rendezvous 3/6. Ever read the rendezvous section? Do a search for Kice island there and you will see a dozen or so pics of my boat.

It is a Newtauk....Newport hull & cap with Montauk interior. Came like that from factory. Dealer in Jacksonville ordered them custom for years, so did a few other dealers around the country.

Bigshot posted 01-31-2004 10:29 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Oops! Gasparilla is Saturday.
ALAFIARAT posted 01-31-2004 11:06 AM ET (US)     Profile for ALAFIARAT  Send Email to ALAFIARAT     
Bigshot I found your Newtauk ,looks great . I have ahot lead on the red rub rail now but the green does look nice . Ah Gasparilla ,Used to go every year for over 15 years .That is a test for any skipper and boat , but whalers do just fine (bumper boats). If I go out there Ill look out for you Dave
David Jenkins posted 02-01-2004 09:37 AM ET (US)     Profile for David Jenkins  Send Email to David Jenkins     
Alafiarat, I met with Jim Knight and bought you 40 feet of red rubrail as we discussed via email. I am headed to Florida in a week or so and will deliver it to you.

Jim has 2000 feet available and is selling it at $2.00 per foot. This will get you only the red insert, not the white or tan parts of the 3-part set. So anyone who wants a new rub rail in red will have to get the 3-part system from somewhere like Twin Cities Marine (c. $125) then discard (or sell on eBay) the black insert. So your total cost will be $125 plus $80 plus shipping.

You will not be able to reach Jim via the number that we have for him on another page in the Reference section of this web site. I have his cell phone number but I do not have his permission to post that information. The best way to reach him is via email:

Jim Knight <James.Knight@ncmail.net>

Jim Knight has a warehouse of Whaler material because he bought the inventory of two Whaler dealerships that closed shop. He only goes to the warehouse once a week, and during fishing season he might go even less. He is very helpful but he only does this because he loves the classic Whalers. It is not a money-making business for him.

Unfortunately, Jim could not help me because my 1974 Outrage 19 uses a 2-part rub rail, not the three part. BARBOUR PLASTIC might be talked into making it if I could give them an order for 500 feet. I will get more details about this and will post it in a new thread. Maybe there are ten owners of the 1972-78 Outrage 19 that would like to re-fit their boats with the original red rub rail....

ALAFIARAT posted 02-01-2004 10:59 AM ET (US)     Profile for ALAFIARAT  Send Email to ALAFIARAT     
Thanks David , A few days ago I thought my search was going to be a dead end, but thanks to the good people on this forum my Newport is on its way back to original beginings . On a side note GO PANTHERS they won two close games with our Buckos this year .Thanks again David Dave
JeffA posted 02-02-2004 11:38 AM ET (US)     Profile for JeffA  Send Email to JeffA     
Do a search on this site. I bought red rub rail for my Newport from a guy in Virgina advertising on this site for cheap. I paid about $5 dollars for enough to complete the whole boat.

Jeff

Bigshot posted 02-03-2004 01:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
At $2/ft he is making money all right. I think I paid $.75/ft for my green.

David the Newport ALSO uses the 2 part rubrail, not the 3. The 3 part insert fits but is a tad "looser" than original but OK. So you should be able to use it if it works for Alafiarat.

David Jenkins posted 02-03-2004 06:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for David Jenkins  Send Email to David Jenkins     
Well that is really good news. I had no idea that I could replace my 2-part rub rail with a 3-part system. Alafiarat, when I meet you tomorrow to give you the rub rail, could you have your boat with you so that I can see what Nick is talking about?
ALAFIARAT posted 02-03-2004 06:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for ALAFIARAT  Send Email to ALAFIARAT     
Yes David we can see the boat . I think that are the same system ,but I do not know the Outrage yet . It will be the next size I move up to in few years .See you tomorrow Dave
Bigshot posted 02-04-2004 03:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Actually you can't switch the rubrails.....just the insert. The difference between a 2 part and 3 part is about 1/4 inch in width. On the Newport this extra 1/4" covers the cap which is not cut straight. What I did was cut a 1' length of 3 piece and slid it down the gunnel and lined under it with a pencil. This showed me how far the rubrail came down. I then grinded off what was under the pencil line with a hand grinder. Not a pleasant job to do(itched for a week). Now the reason I did all this was Whaler wants $100 for a 3 piece black insert and over $200 for a 2 piece black insert. I wanted a green and was not gona spend the extra $$$. I bought a offwhite Taco insert that is the size of the 3 piece and used a green insert. Looks awesome and cost me about $100.

In a nut shell if the rubrail on your 74 is the same as on his Newport(2 piece), the red will fit. If you use an aftermarket red that is made for a 3 piece(like my green)it fits but is not as snug. Not a problem unless you are consistent with ripping your rubrail off the boat every month:)

ALAFIARAT posted 02-06-2004 01:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for ALAFIARAT  Send Email to ALAFIARAT     
Thanks for the help everyone .David Jenkins found the red insert. Sue at Twin Cities found the rigid backing part number for me .And the local B/W dealer Marinemax ( Chuck ,parts manager ) had the factory send it to him to make sure it was the right fit . So at 80$ for the insert and 138$ for the backing it was not cheap, but it is what i was looking for . Also thanks Jimh for your help Dave Neal
David Jenkins posted 02-06-2004 10:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for David Jenkins  Send Email to David Jenkins     
This forum is fabulous. Sue is sending me the sandstone color rigid back and Jim Knight is getting me 50 feet of red insert, so I will soon have a red rubrail, too. And without Clark Roberts, I would never have even known that the 19 Outrage originally came with a red rubrail.

Thanks to everyone who takes the time to share their knowledge about Boston Whaler boats.

greyg8r posted 02-06-2004 10:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for greyg8r    
Alafiarat,

I think I crossed paths with you on the Alafia River. You were coming out of the lagoon near the Alafia Marina. I saw a Newport and I don't see those very often. I have a 1974 Katama (sans the windscreen).

I have a second house on the lagoon. Do you live on that lagoon also?

Let's touch base and heave a brew at the Marina bar.

Richard

ALAFIARAT posted 02-07-2004 06:32 AM ET (US)     Profile for ALAFIARAT  Send Email to ALAFIARAT     
Richard ,that is me. My dock is two canals up from the lagoon towards the bay on the same side of the river. I put my Newport on the tralier for a few weeks to install rub rail and a few other things . When I put back in Ill give you a yell . I do alot of snook fishing during the mornings on the river . Dave

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