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quattro20vt posted 02-13-2004 10:45 PM ET (US)   Profile for quattro20vt   Send Email to quattro20vt  
22' WD owners...where are your batteries located and how are they secured?

In my 22' Revenge WT WD, I have two Group 27 batteries simply resting in a wood tray in the transom locker, starboard side. These aren't secured by a strap, so I doubt this is a factory config (other clues include the Perko switch secured with only two screws, and it covering the decal warning to use a fuel/water separator). Anyone know how the factory rigged dual batteries?

Also, any comments on the general config of the transom locker area on a WD (and perhaps SeaDrive) boat? What would be the motorwell on a notched transom boat has been covered over by a thin plastic sheet--this looks factory--what's below it on a WD model? could I remove it and drop batteries and oil-tank into there?

Other configs to consider? Thanks!

alkar posted 02-14-2004 12:39 AM ET (US)     Profile for alkar  Send Email to alkar     
I don't know how my boat was originally rigged, but I can tell you how it is rigged today.

I have twin Honda 115s at 505 pounds each, and I have dual batteries for EACH motor (A total of four, with each pair routed through a Perko switch).

I needed to move some battery weight forward to improve static trim. I followed Sal's advice and put the two group 27's in the forward cooler. That helped. (I still have a pair of group 24s in the transom.)

logjamslam posted 02-14-2004 02:43 AM ET (US)     Profile for logjamslam  Send Email to logjamslam     
I have them separated as much as possible from each other and the oil tank and fuel filter.

On a 25' whaler I once had a battery overcharge and burn(bad voltage regulator) and lost both batteries and oil tanks because they were all mounted close together. I'm glad that the fuel filters and lines didn't catch fire or it would have been more exciting than it was.

Your unsecured batteries could give you the same results so it's good that you are looking at your options for securing them.

tgrobson posted 02-14-2004 10:12 AM ET (US)     Profile for tgrobson  Send Email to tgrobson     
I have a 1989 outrage 22'WD. My boat is powered by twin Yamaha 130's. The two batteries are located one on each side of the transom under the small wood hatches. They are both in BW battery boxes which are secured with straps attached to small perko deck hardware. Based on the wiring diagram in the CW reference section, My wiring appears to follow the factory specs.
Barry posted 02-14-2004 10:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for Barry  Send Email to Barry     
Mine are located the same at tgrobson's. One on each side of the stern transom enclose, under the small teak hatch, in the original BW battery box.

quattro20vt posted 02-15-2004 12:51 AM ET (US)     Profile for quattro20vt  Send Email to quattro20vt     
I should have mentioned I'm running a single Opti 225 ... interestingly, the spec calls for a battery with a 1000 MCA or 750 CCA rating! The old Laser spec'd a much smaller battery!

Just read the Reference section on dual batteries again...I suppose no need to get real fancy w/ a single engine, and the first setup is almost what I have (difference being engine always connected to battery). I also found more things to change in the electricals :( such as several circuits unfused and bypassing the house circuit breaker. oh well.

For those of you with battery boxes, are they strapped down to the main deck or to the raised "platform" created by the original motorwell forward bulkhead? If on the deck, how much room to the scuppers?

Barry posted 02-15-2004 09:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for Barry  Send Email to Barry     
My battery boxes are strapped to the deck. My oil tanks are mounted on the raised lip of the old splashwell.

Here is an older picture of the space with the battery box removed http://members.aol.com/bburtensha/outrage/stern2.jpg

That was taken before I cleaned it up. There is not much room between the back of the battery box and the scupper.

peetmin posted 02-16-2004 02:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for peetmin  Send Email to peetmin     
I have been considering putting mine (batteries) in the port side bulkhead. There appears to be enought space in front on the piece of wood that the retractable ladder runs along. It would be sort of a pain removing and replaceing each battery through the vinal snapped pouch inside the cabin. However once in place they would be easy to secure and out of the way. That space is a little hard to find a good use for. Many items (if not secured) will turn side ways while in transit and get in the path of the ladder. I have found that area useful for 2 cycle oil storage 2.5 gallon containers of Yamalube. pb
lhg posted 02-19-2004 08:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
As tgrobson and barry have indicated, I can tell you with some authority that for all of Whaler's 2nd generation Outrage/Revenge models, full transom or other, the company furnished tan Whaler Battery boxes in the standard price of the boat, with excellent Kevlock over centering strap, for Group 24 batteries, to be installed running front to back orientation, in each stern corner of the splashwell, as far apart as possible. The oil injection tanks are them mounted next to each battery, which leaves room for the center drop-in well.

I put a cut-to-size piece of "drydeck" under each battery, and then compress this down with tension in the strap. The batteries MUST be prevented from moving around, and this system really locks them in place.

I've got to say, I have seen some horribly butchered battery, oil tank and fuel filter installations on Whalers. Have to wonder who did this rigging work.

quattro20vt posted 02-20-2004 04:42 AM ET (US)     Profile for quattro20vt  Send Email to quattro20vt     
lhg--
Would the battery boxes in each corner have been the factory configuration for a WD model to be rigged with a single outboard? (remember my repower thread that morphed into what length for a single OB on a WD? ;) Seems to me that mounting the batteries as you mention would impede water in the cockpit draining out the scuppers (that issue you've mentioned w/ WD and other closed stern Whalers before).

I like your DriDek idea--do you put it between the battery box and the deck or inside the battery box under the battery?

homey posted 02-20-2004 09:44 AM ET (US)     Profile for homey  Send Email to homey     
Quattro20vt,

I have a 1991 25' whalerdrive with twins. Starting batteries are mounted port and starboard, in whaler boxes/strapped(factory rig). The 2 deep cycle batteries are port and starboard along the transom bolts, strapped and infront of the those batts are the oil tanks port and star. The switches are mounted inside the transom infront of each motor. This system has worked great for me...

My splashwell WAS also covered by the thin "plastic sheet"-Factory Job. It must have been a after thought by Whaler to place that piece of crap there. The silicone seal thats underneath that sheet fails and water fills the splashwell. If you remove the sheet you will find foam, probably soaked. I removed mine and the foam, cleaned the mostly gelcoated splashwell, attempted a temporary fix that failed...I contacted "maritime Plastics" and using the old plastic sheet as a template with some modification they constructed a new one out of 1/2" Starboard. Refoamed, resealed, reinstalled the starboard cover and its worked great. Maritime plastics does great work, and reasonably priced...The spashwell is tiny, and is pretty much useless on a whalerdrive model....Good Luck ! Homey


Maritime Plastics
110 Severn ave.
Annapolis, Md. 21403
410-2634424
MRPLASTIC@AOL.COM

Abalonehunter posted 02-20-2004 04:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for Abalonehunter  Send Email to Abalonehunter     
On our 86, 22 Revenge WT 2.6L SeaDrive/Full Transom the starboard side battery was as everyone has noted, however the port battery was affixed to the port rear of the transom via an aluminum cradle that appeared to be OEM. The oil reservoir was a big beast of a reservoir that fit into the splash well and a bilge pump was below that. Neither the port battery nor the bilge pump were easy to get to but having the battery up off the floor and away from anything else even though it was difficult to get to was nice. If we still had it I'd take pics.
lhg posted 02-20-2004 05:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
Quattro - the Dri Deck goes under the battery box.

As for the deep recessed are of the splashwell on the WD models, others have complained about the cover and foam infill. My Sea Drive blank boat came with the well open, and a 500gph bilge pump/float installed instead, with thru-hull on the starboard side. Seems like a better solution. This area needed to be open for lower bracket bolts.

Except for the Sea Drive boats, none of the Whaler Drive boats came factory rigged with batteries, only the box was furnished for dealer/owner installation. But the very stern corners is where they were supposed to go as evidenced by the 50 amp house power leads.

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