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ChocLabWhaler posted 02-17-2004 09:57 PM ET (US)
Can anybody explain to me why someone would paint an engine - Aside from the obvious reason of ugly sun damage. I've seen some newer engines having been painted. Why?
Do people have real problems with free advertising for the manufacturer?
Just a tired thought....
CLW
Hobie1981 posted 02-18-2004 12:54 AM ET (US)
Choc:
I wanted to use the work "aesthetics", and you gave me the chance. :-)
Hobie
ChocLabWhaler posted 02-18-2004 08:26 AM ET (US)
It's amazing what people will do to prove they learned a new word! ;-)
Is that all it is - aesthetics? does this hurt possible resale?
CLW
greyg8r posted 02-18-2004 08:42 AM ET (US)
Choc,
When I recently overhauled my 1982 engine, I purposely did NOT paint the outside. I have seen too many engines on eBay that are painted and I always wonder what are they hiding.
Besides, I like the tired, worn look (that I see in the mirror). I think they now call it "retro".
Richard
Al_A_Buy posted 02-18-2004 10:33 AM ET (US)
CLW - Why not? If you are taking the time to restore/rebuild an item, be it an outboard or 57 Chevy, why not refresh the exterior appearance. A concours (sp?) restoration requires a repaint in the original livery, complete with decals, striping, etc...
Additionally, corrosion control is an outstanding reason to repaint / re-coat. As a highly reactive material, aluminum requires regular maintenance including paint to extend its useful life. As older power plants made extensive use of aluminum, it make sense to touch up as necessary and repaint when required.
Al W.
flawton posted 02-18-2004 10:37 AM ET (US)
While pulling my 13' whaler on I-16 during a thunderstorm, What started as a chip in the black paint on the cowl of our 40 johnson tunred into several large chunks of missing paint(size of golf balls). The missing paint really wouldn't bother me if the cowl itself wasn't made out of white plastic.
I would really like to paint it cause it looks like a teradaktyl (sp) took a big dump on my black engine(hey you asked why).
It has become one of those things that is way down on the list of priorities.
Bigshot posted 02-18-2004 10:54 AM ET (US)
There are 2 ways of painting an engine that will NOT hurt resale and maybe even improve it. I shake my head at all the people I see driving around with peeling paint or massive corrosion, etc....have some pride! I repaint my lower unit on a quarterly basis, I like her to look mint....damn things cost enough. One way is to buy the Tempo match paint, tape off the decals, etc and spray. Once finished remove tape and spay entire engine with Tempo clear(decals too). This makes her look good again while preserving her stock look. You can also buy new decals but that is VERY expensive.
2nd is a custom paint job. This can be as simple as having new decals made to match your boat. Good example is my friend has a 22' Concept with purple graphics. His Optimax had blue graphics. He spent $175 for a shop to remove his blue and replace with custom purple that looked identical to factory....DAMN cool modification. Then you can go more extreme and paint the engine to match your boat, if done right it can cost a coouple thousand an engine for a radical job. Read Hot Boat mag and see how they look.
To do it wrong is like when a shop rebuilds an engine and sprays the whole thing one color and it has no decals or the $5 ones that say EVINRUDE on the cowl.....that looks like hell. Even if you keep her nice, over time she will fade and need a touchup....$6/can aint gona kill ya.
doobee posted 02-18-2004 08:50 PM ET (US)
Anybody ever paint their engine HOT PINK? :)
Ferdinando posted 02-19-2004 09:24 AM ET (US)
Here's a reason to paint an engine. I had a 1986 15' SS which I purchased brand new for $9600 dollars.
The boat was kept in mint condition I mean not even a scratch on the bottom of the hull. It had a 70 HP Evinrude
which had 413 original hrs on it, but after 13 yrs the colors started to fade so I had it painted the newer dark blue and put 1997 decals on it.
About 4 months later I decided to sell it so I put it in the paper and a guy comes to my house and when he asks me the yr of the boat & engine I tell him it's an 86, He says your BS me that boat can't be more then a yr old. To make a long story short I sold it for $10,000...............
Had I not painted the motor I don't think I would have gotten that price........
Fred
Abaco posted 02-19-2004 10:17 AM ET (US)
Some high end boats look very good with painted engines. I have a friend with a new 30 foot Intrepid that had all the labels removed and painted white to match the boat. I think it's a baked on powder coat finish. A $3,000 option, but it looks nice and custom.
Bigshot posted 02-19-2004 10:56 AM ET (US)
Exactly....it has to be done right. My neighbor/friend has a 140 johnson that was one of those rebuilds that looks like they painted it with a broom. I keep trying to get him to paint it(i'll do it) but he does not care. 2 hours and some decals or a used shroud would make his rig look 100 times better.....hey it's his boat.
I had my 225 ocean runner rebuilt a couple weeks ago. We painted the powerhead teal blue which matches the ocean runner decals. Looks pretty trick when you remove the cowl, especially with all the black parts and the new yellow high-perf coil wires. Nobody can ever question that it was rebuilt....NOBODY can mask that well.
ChocLabWhaler posted 02-19-2004 03:05 PM ET (US)
It's good to get opinions. I was worried that my painted Evinrude 115 was hiding something. I like Bigshot's idea of painting more frequently, because mine does look like it was painted with a broom! What kind of paint should I use for the lower unit as well as the cowling?
I'm tempted to go pink - just to be obnoxious when I'm fly fishing.
CLW
Bigshot posted 02-19-2004 03:32 PM ET (US)
Go any color you want but if you want factory...Tempo is the only way to go....$6 or so a can. If decals are shot, search E-bay for a newer shroud.

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Author	Topic: Engine painting
ChocLabWhaler	posted 02-17-2004 09:57 PM ET (US) Can anybody explain to me why someone would paint an engine - Aside from the obvious reason of ugly sun damage. I've seen some newer engines having been painted. Why? Do people have real problems with free advertising for the manufacturer? Just a tired thought.... CLW
Hobie1981	posted 02-18-2004 12:54 AM ET (US) Choc: I wanted to use the work "aesthetics", and you gave me the chance. :-) Hobie
ChocLabWhaler	posted 02-18-2004 08:26 AM ET (US) It's amazing what people will do to prove they learned a new word! ;-) Is that all it is - aesthetics? does this hurt possible resale? CLW
greyg8r	posted 02-18-2004 08:42 AM ET (US) Choc, When I recently overhauled my 1982 engine, I purposely did NOT paint the outside. I have seen too many engines on eBay that are painted and I always wonder what are they hiding. Besides, I like the tired, worn look (that I see in the mirror). I think they now call it "retro". Richard
Al_A_Buy	posted 02-18-2004 10:33 AM ET (US) CLW - Why not? If you are taking the time to restore/rebuild an item, be it an outboard or 57 Chevy, why not refresh the exterior appearance. A concours (sp?) restoration requires a repaint in the original livery, complete with decals, striping, etc... Additionally, corrosion control is an outstanding reason to repaint / re-coat. As a highly reactive material, aluminum requires regular maintenance including paint to extend its useful life. As older power plants made extensive use of aluminum, it make sense to touch up as necessary and repaint when required. Al W.
flawton	posted 02-18-2004 10:37 AM ET (US) While pulling my 13' whaler on I-16 during a thunderstorm, What started as a chip in the black paint on the cowl of our 40 johnson tunred into several large chunks of missing paint(size of golf balls). The missing paint really wouldn't bother me if the cowl itself wasn't made out of white plastic. I would really like to paint it cause it looks like a teradaktyl (sp) took a big dump on my black engine(hey you asked why). It has become one of those things that is way down on the list of priorities.
Bigshot	posted 02-18-2004 10:54 AM ET (US) There are 2 ways of painting an engine that will NOT hurt resale and maybe even improve it. I shake my head at all the people I see driving around with peeling paint or massive corrosion, etc....have some pride! I repaint my lower unit on a quarterly basis, I like her to look mint....damn things cost enough. One way is to buy the Tempo match paint, tape off the decals, etc and spray. Once finished remove tape and spay entire engine with Tempo clear(decals too). This makes her look good again while preserving her stock look. You can also buy new decals but that is VERY expensive. 2nd is a custom paint job. This can be as simple as having new decals made to match your boat. Good example is my friend has a 22' Concept with purple graphics. His Optimax had blue graphics. He spent $175 for a shop to remove his blue and replace with custom purple that looked identical to factory....DAMN cool modification. Then you can go more extreme and paint the engine to match your boat, if done right it can cost a coouple thousand an engine for a radical job. Read Hot Boat mag and see how they look. To do it wrong is like when a shop rebuilds an engine and sprays the whole thing one color and it has no decals or the $5 ones that say EVINRUDE on the cowl.....that looks like hell. Even if you keep her nice, over time she will fade and need a touchup....$6/can aint gona kill ya.
doobee	posted 02-18-2004 08:50 PM ET (US) Anybody ever paint their engine HOT PINK? :)
Ferdinando	posted 02-19-2004 09:24 AM ET (US) Here's a reason to paint an engine. I had a 1986 15' SS which I purchased brand new for $9600 dollars. The boat was kept in mint condition I mean not even a scratch on the bottom of the hull. It had a 70 HP Evinrude which had 413 original hrs on it, but after 13 yrs the colors started to fade so I had it painted the newer dark blue and put 1997 decals on it. About 4 months later I decided to sell it so I put it in the paper and a guy comes to my house and when he asks me the yr of the boat & engine I tell him it's an 86, He says your BS me that boat can't be more then a yr old. To make a long story short I sold it for $10,000............... Had I not painted the motor I don't think I would have gotten that price........ Fred
Abaco	posted 02-19-2004 10:17 AM ET (US) Some high end boats look very good with painted engines. I have a friend with a new 30 foot Intrepid that had all the labels removed and painted white to match the boat. I think it's a baked on powder coat finish. A $3,000 option, but it looks nice and custom.
Bigshot	posted 02-19-2004 10:56 AM ET (US) Exactly....it has to be done right. My neighbor/friend has a 140 johnson that was one of those rebuilds that looks like they painted it with a broom. I keep trying to get him to paint it(i'll do it) but he does not care. 2 hours and some decals or a used shroud would make his rig look 100 times better.....hey it's his boat. I had my 225 ocean runner rebuilt a couple weeks ago. We painted the powerhead teal blue which matches the ocean runner decals. Looks pretty trick when you remove the cowl, especially with all the black parts and the new yellow high-perf coil wires. Nobody can ever question that it was rebuilt....NOBODY can mask that well.
ChocLabWhaler	posted 02-19-2004 03:05 PM ET (US) It's good to get opinions. I was worried that my painted Evinrude 115 was hiding something. I like Bigshot's idea of painting more frequently, because mine does look like it was painted with a broom! What kind of paint should I use for the lower unit as well as the cowling? I'm tempted to go pink - just to be obnoxious when I'm fly fishing. CLW
Bigshot	posted 02-19-2004 03:32 PM ET (US) Go any color you want but if you want factory...Tempo is the only way to go....$6 or so a can. If decals are shot, search E-bay for a newer shroud.