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Wayneman posted 03-03-2004 10:04 AM ET (US)   Profile for Wayneman   Send Email to Wayneman  
Hello. I recently heard that within two to four years, legislation is in the works to start banning two-cycle outboards on various waterways in favor of four-cycle. This sounds preposterous to me. Has anyone heard anything about this rubbish?
John O posted 03-03-2004 10:20 AM ET (US)     Profile for John O    
My understanding is that a ban may already occur on some lakes and ponds. I think it is a state to state decision. I do not think a ban will take place on the oceans. I would check the states position on this first.
Chuck Tribolet posted 03-03-2004 07:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for Chuck Tribolet  Send Email to Chuck Tribolet     
In California, Lake Tahoe and ten smaller likes
require motors to meet an emissions requirement that carbed
two-strokes have been unable to meet. Direction injection
two-strokes do meet it. Carbed Two-strokes are not banned for
being be carbed two-strokes, but rather for being dirty.
If they were clean, they'd be OK, if a four-stroke was dirty,
it would not be OK.

California has banned the sale of new "dirty" engines starting
with the 2001 model year, and becoming stricter in the 2004
and 2008 model years. Old engines may continue to be operated
except on 11 lakes.


LHG posted 03-03-2004 07:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for LHG    
The CA 2004 regulations = 2 star rating that we see in the decals on engines.

The CA 2008 regulations = 3 star rating decals.

I think the Federal 2006 EPA requirement is the same as the 2-star rating. Nothing can be sold that doesn't have it.

All current DFI and 4-stroke engines meet 2-star right now.
This year, most 4-strokes are now 3-star, but I'm wondering how they will get some of the bigger DFI's up there. So far the highest HP DFI 3-star is the Merc 135 Optimax.

Wayneman posted 03-04-2004 12:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for Wayneman  Send Email to Wayneman     
Thx all. I geuss I am safe on the Hudson especially with General Electric and their onerous contribution up-river.
grantrobarts posted 03-16-2009 11:11 AM ET (US)     Profile for grantrobarts  Send Email to grantrobarts     
I have a 1999 Suzuki DT140 (2-stroke) in Florida right now, and will be transporting this back to California for a permanent move.

I spent some time looking on the internet for specifics to engines, but couldn't come up with much. Hopefully someone could offer some more insight on this topic 5 years later.

jimh posted 03-17-2009 07:34 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Five years have elapsed and there has been no legislation which bans the two-cycle motor. In consideration of this, this thread is closed to further discussion.

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