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kamie posted 03-13-2005 04:22 PM ET (US)
I am planning to install either a Navman F2100 or 3100 this spring. That will take care of fuel but the other gauges on the boat are questionable. I believe the Tach is working but I know the tilt/trim gauge is not working and neither is the other gauge which is either water or oil pressure, can't remember which at this point.
kamie.homeip.net/prwc/html/misc_evenstar_5.html

What is a good compliment on guages to have without going totally overboard?

ratherwhalering posted 03-14-2005 11:55 AM ET (US)
Hey Kamie, I guess it depends on the engine. My late model Evinrude came with the "Systems Check", which includes temp/oil warning lights, so I skipped these gauges. Looks like you have a two stroke Mercury 150. I would sugguest tachometer, trim, engine temp, oil pressure, and water pressure gauges. That makes for a nice combo, with the tach up top, then the four gauges in two rows below. I'd use a GPS/FF for speed over ground and speed through the water.
Look at e-bay for a set of gauges. Often there are great deals on a pre-wired set.
kamie posted 03-14-2005 06:53 PM ET (US)
The engine is a Merc 150 v6. It currently has Tach, water pressue and tilt/trim. I was planning on putting the Navman 3100 in the center depending on how well I could see it when I stand to drive. If all goes well I will replace the warn wood on the console so adding a temp and/or oil pressure guages would be easy. I may swap temp for volt meter, espcially if I add a radio.
Thanks for the suggestions.
Joe Kriz posted 03-14-2005 07:06 PM ET (US)
Kamie,
You can't have too many gauges.
I have gotten by with just a few gauges and never felt the need for anything more.
1. Tachometer
2. Voltmeter
3. Trim & Tilt
4. Hour Meter - (only if you put on a new engine) (no sense putting it on an old engine that you don't know how many hours on it to begin with)
We no longer need Speedometers as the GPS or FishFinder usually works better anyway.
What is the gauge, or the blank hole, next to your Throttle control?
Old speedometer hole?
Is that were you intend to put the Navman 3100?
rtk posted 03-14-2005 08:52 PM ET (US)
My engine gauge priority, in this order, would be (1st being highest priority):
Tachometer
Voltmeter
Water Pressure
Power Trim
Engine temperature (I have been informed that the outboard engine temp readings are not terribly accurate)
Fuel gauge, of course on all applicable boats.
This is for two stroke. Oil pressure and temperature for a four stroke may be applicable.
Make sure all your warning horns are operational too while you are playing with the gauges and wiring. They are just as or more important than the gauges.
A tach and voltmeter is all you really "need" (with good warning horns)
I like alot of info myself, but only really need tach and volts to keep an eye on the motor.
Rich

kamie posted 03-14-2005 11:10 PM ET (US)
Joe,
No clue what was there before. Wasn't a gauge there when I got the boat. I was planning on putting the Navman there depending on how well I can see it. If I can't see it when I stand to drive, I might see about repairing that hole and moving the Navman up toward the top center of the console.
Before I replace them I will see if I can get the tilt/trim and the water pressure gauge working? could be blown fuses or loose wire somwhere in the console. If those work, I will probably add a volt meter and Navman 3100 and call it a draw. My guess is I will look to repower at the end of this season depending on how the engine holds up. If that's the case I will add the hour meter with the new engine.
Seems like the general list is
1. Tach
2. Volt Meter
3. Tilt/Trim
4. Fuel
5. water pressure / engine temp / oil pressure or some combo.
jimh posted 03-15-2005 08:20 AM ET (US)
I am assuming your engine, a "Merc 150 v6", is a two-stroke. Two-stroke engines do not have oil pressure to be measured, so an oil pressure gauge is not usually part of an instrument panel for a two-stroke. Perhaps four-stroke outboard motors might have an oil pressure gauge, but I do not recall seeing them used very often, if ever.
Water pressure is typically measured in preference to engine temperature, as loss of water pressure in the cooling system will give a faster indication of impending temperature rise.
ratherwhalering posted 03-16-2005 01:31 AM ET (US)
Duh, Jim's right. No oil pressure on a two stroke. I would like to amend my sugguestion to Tachometer, voltage meter, tilt/trim, water pressure, and engine temp. gauges. An hour meter would be nice, but if you keep a clean log, you probably don't need one.
Thank you, and goodnight!
myakka posted 03-16-2005 05:58 AM ET (US)
Kamie
There is a Navman fuel transducer on the marketplace forum. You may be able to get deal on the 3100 less the transducer. I know broken leg dave sells them that way.
Mike
jimh posted 03-16-2005 08:16 AM ET (US)
I think an hour meter should be near the top of the list, and particularly for four-stroke engines. The oil should be changed at periodic intervals on a four-stroke engine, and an hour meter is the best way to track engine use.

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Author	Topic: Gauge Suggestions for 18 Outrage?
kamie	posted 03-13-2005 04:22 PM ET (US) I am planning to install either a Navman F2100 or 3100 this spring. That will take care of fuel but the other gauges on the boat are questionable. I believe the Tach is working but I know the tilt/trim gauge is not working and neither is the other gauge which is either water or oil pressure, can't remember which at this point. kamie.homeip.net/prwc/html/misc_evenstar_5.html What is a good compliment on guages to have without going totally overboard?
ratherwhalering	posted 03-14-2005 11:55 AM ET (US) Hey Kamie, I guess it depends on the engine. My late model Evinrude came with the "Systems Check", which includes temp/oil warning lights, so I skipped these gauges. Looks like you have a two stroke Mercury 150. I would sugguest tachometer, trim, engine temp, oil pressure, and water pressure gauges. That makes for a nice combo, with the tach up top, then the four gauges in two rows below. I'd use a GPS/FF for speed over ground and speed through the water. Look at e-bay for a set of gauges. Often there are great deals on a pre-wired set.
kamie	posted 03-14-2005 06:53 PM ET (US) The engine is a Merc 150 v6. It currently has Tach, water pressue and tilt/trim. I was planning on putting the Navman 3100 in the center depending on how well I could see it when I stand to drive. If all goes well I will replace the warn wood on the console so adding a temp and/or oil pressure guages would be easy. I may swap temp for volt meter, espcially if I add a radio. Thanks for the suggestions.
Joe Kriz	posted 03-14-2005 07:06 PM ET (US) Kamie, You can't have too many gauges. I have gotten by with just a few gauges and never felt the need for anything more. 1. Tachometer 2. Voltmeter 3. Trim & Tilt 4. Hour Meter - (only if you put on a new engine) (no sense putting it on an old engine that you don't know how many hours on it to begin with) We no longer need Speedometers as the GPS or FishFinder usually works better anyway. What is the gauge, or the blank hole, next to your Throttle control? Old speedometer hole? Is that were you intend to put the Navman 3100?
rtk	posted 03-14-2005 08:52 PM ET (US) My engine gauge priority, in this order, would be (1st being highest priority): Tachometer Voltmeter Water Pressure Power Trim Engine temperature (I have been informed that the outboard engine temp readings are not terribly accurate) Fuel gauge, of course on all applicable boats. This is for two stroke. Oil pressure and temperature for a four stroke may be applicable. Make sure all your warning horns are operational too while you are playing with the gauges and wiring. They are just as or more important than the gauges. A tach and voltmeter is all you really "need" (with good warning horns) I like alot of info myself, but only really need tach and volts to keep an eye on the motor. Rich
kamie	posted 03-14-2005 11:10 PM ET (US) Joe, No clue what was there before. Wasn't a gauge there when I got the boat. I was planning on putting the Navman there depending on how well I can see it. If I can't see it when I stand to drive, I might see about repairing that hole and moving the Navman up toward the top center of the console. Before I replace them I will see if I can get the tilt/trim and the water pressure gauge working? could be blown fuses or loose wire somwhere in the console. If those work, I will probably add a volt meter and Navman 3100 and call it a draw. My guess is I will look to repower at the end of this season depending on how the engine holds up. If that's the case I will add the hour meter with the new engine. Seems like the general list is 1. Tach 2. Volt Meter 3. Tilt/Trim 4. Fuel 5. water pressure / engine temp / oil pressure or some combo.
jimh	posted 03-15-2005 08:20 AM ET (US) I am assuming your engine, a "Merc 150 v6", is a two-stroke. Two-stroke engines do not have oil pressure to be measured, so an oil pressure gauge is not usually part of an instrument panel for a two-stroke. Perhaps four-stroke outboard motors might have an oil pressure gauge, but I do not recall seeing them used very often, if ever. Water pressure is typically measured in preference to engine temperature, as loss of water pressure in the cooling system will give a faster indication of impending temperature rise.
ratherwhalering	posted 03-16-2005 01:31 AM ET (US) Duh, Jim's right. No oil pressure on a two stroke. I would like to amend my sugguestion to Tachometer, voltage meter, tilt/trim, water pressure, and engine temp. gauges. An hour meter would be nice, but if you keep a clean log, you probably don't need one. Thank you, and goodnight!
myakka	posted 03-16-2005 05:58 AM ET (US) Kamie There is a Navman fuel transducer on the marketplace forum. You may be able to get deal on the 3100 less the transducer. I know broken leg dave sells them that way. Mike
jimh	posted 03-16-2005 08:16 AM ET (US) I think an hour meter should be near the top of the list, and particularly for four-stroke engines. The oil should be changed at periodic intervals on a four-stroke engine, and an hour meter is the best way to track engine use.