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whaler131 posted 04-12-2007 07:23 PM ET (US)   Profile for whaler131   Send Email to whaler131  
Has anyone [converted a Boston Whaler OUTRAGE 22 to a pilot house from a center console]? Pacific Pilot Houses makes a pilot house that I think will fit my 1988 Outrage 22. I am getting tired of freezing on lake Erie most of the year and getting wet. They look like the commercial division Boston Whaler boat when finished. Only not gray, they can match my color of the 1988, they said. Please give me your thoughts on this. Thanks, joe
Bulldog posted 04-12-2007 08:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bulldog  Send Email to Bulldog     
"Chesapeake Charlie" put a pilot house on a 20' Revenge that he took the cabin off of, turned out real nice. Try searching under his name..............Jack
andygere posted 04-13-2007 12:29 AM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
I have seen these pilothouses, and they look nice. The local Whaler dealer had one in his showroom the last time I was there. I have a canvas pilothouse, and it makes a big difference. A fiberglass house with glass windows and wipers would be really nice.

This gives you an idea of how it might look:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/andygere/Golden%20Gate%20Whalers/ SalmonDerby016.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/andygere/Golden%20Gate%20Whalers/ Andys22Cuddy.jpg

fairdeal2u posted 04-13-2007 01:23 AM ET (US)     Profile for fairdeal2u  Send Email to fairdeal2u     
I saw [a pilot house made by Pacific Pilot House] up close and personal about three years ago. [Pacific Pilot House] are located in southern California. There are quite a few configurations depending on how much protection you want.

They are nicely finished if you go the whole way and not just get the one that goes over the console.

It is a tradeoff. More wind resistance, a litle more top heavy. There is probably enough room on a 22-footer. Kind of tight on a 19-footer. Sounds like, for you, the protection would be worth it for your fishing conditions.

towboater posted 04-13-2007 06:03 AM ET (US)     Profile for towboater  Send Email to towboater     
My plan is similar using custom canvas:
(CPD 22 project burned last Sept, now working on a CPD 19)

Remove the console.
Build port and stbd "consoles" on both sides of the bow behind the bow step to leave the bow locker usable and open. Similar to the Ventura yet more compact.

The canvas would be attatched to a modified radar tower with gussets & bracing going aft. This would be similar strength & size alum piping as leaning posts. My pard is a Steamfitter and I have alum welding machine. This is a substantial $$ savings over having a fab shop build everything.

Result, I will only loose about 1/4 of the 360' access console boats have & I need, but still able to quickly get to the bow for anchoring or landings & then zip up the canvas for shelter. This shelter is taller than the Mills, does not cover the bow locker. It will catch more wind but the boat will have twins to compensate easier than a single would.

The 22 had plenty of room for this custom setup. Not sure about the 19, Mills may work just as well.

chesapeakecharlie posted 04-13-2007 05:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for chesapeakecharlie  Send Email to chesapeakecharlie     
Joe, I'll put a link or two up to a few pics of my converted Revenge to Outrage pilothouse this evening....I am unable to do it from my work computer.

I am EXTREMELY happy with my Pacific Pilothouse and installation was a snap.

Chuck

ukuslayer posted 04-13-2007 07:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for ukuslayer  Send Email to ukuslayer     
Whaler131,

Here are a few pics of my 1986 guardian that was converted to a pilothouse. I bought it from a fellow CW member and he did the conversion. I love the dry ride and protection from the elements it gives.

I believe he got his pilot house from Pacific Pilot Houses also. As you can see he also built a forward cab to which you can sleep two adults comfortably. He did some modifications to the house to build it to his specs, but I would think you could install a basic house and it would be a fairly easy job. If you take on the project I hope all goes well for you.

Aloha Sean

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ukuslayer posted 04-13-2007 08:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for ukuslayer  Send Email to ukuslayer     
Missed two


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towboater posted 04-13-2007 09:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for towboater  Send Email to towboater     
You betcha uku, very nice setup.
thx for your time.

Cut out the cuddy, move the windows fwd & extend the overhead back, you have my plan.

mk

ukuslayer posted 04-13-2007 10:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for ukuslayer  Send Email to ukuslayer     
Towboater

Thanks, I really do love the boat and she rides incredible.
I like the sound of your idea and I'm sure we will all love to see your finished product when you get her complete. I think Whaler131 will be a bit more excited about his project knowing that it has been done and others are doing it also. There are a lot of different ways to go about installing a pilothouse and it will be great to see pics of the different ideas you guy come up with.

Aloha Sean

fairdeal2u posted 04-13-2007 11:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for fairdeal2u  Send Email to fairdeal2u     
Nice. I like the boston whaler decal on the pilothouse. Who did that for you?
whaler131 posted 04-15-2007 09:34 AM ET (US)     Profile for whaler131  Send Email to whaler131     
Thank guys for all the info, I enjoyed the pictures, Now need to decide what fits me the best for how I fish and boat. again thanks Joe
chesapeakecharlie posted 04-15-2007 03:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for chesapeakecharlie  Send Email to chesapeakecharlie     
Here are a few recent pics of the Pacific Pilothouse on my Outrage 20.

http://momentoffame.com/photopost/showphoto.php/photo/63400/cat/500/ page/1

http://momentoffame.com/photopost/showphoto.php/photo/63399/cat/500/ page/1

http://momentoffame.com/photopost/showphoto.php/photo/63398/cat/500/ page/1

sternorama posted 04-16-2007 04:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for sternorama  Send Email to sternorama     
Super Cool! How does this structure attach to the deck?
blackdog54 posted 04-17-2007 10:26 AM ET (US)     Profile for blackdog54  Send Email to blackdog54     
I saw Charlie's Outrage with the pilot house conversion that he did at the Shelter Island launch here in San Diego several months back.

I have to admit I had terrible envy. It was beautiful.

chesapeakecharlie posted 04-17-2007 02:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for chesapeakecharlie  Send Email to chesapeakecharlie     
I have the pilothouse thru-bolted in the four corners----these are the only places in which I had access to "something underneath" that would allow me to thru-bolt.....I was able to gain access to the recess below the deck in the back two corners by removing the small square access hatches that are located at the forward section of the main deck section. Similarly, I was able to thru-bolt the front corners because I had access to the bottom of the deck via the front storage locker (former port-a-potty recess). In addition to the four thru bolts, I used 1.5'' stainless screws about 6 inches apart on the front and sides. I'm fairly convinced you could lift the boat by the pilothouse now. It's quite solid.
whaler220 posted 11-11-2009 02:16 AM ET (US)     Profile for whaler220  Send Email to whaler220     
humm. hi room im new here and specially to enternet . but i also have a fishing habit and have a fishing boat a boston whaler daunless 220. i have her new, and have a t-top custom made from a guy in san diego. and she looks good . but everytime i came home from tuna trip. brake here and ther and always to the shop for welding repair.im very tierd of it now ,soo i'd start looking for another type of option . call pacific pilot house for there product and prices but there to much. can't see how to pit my buddget. heres what i have made in my backyard.i call it.. home made pilot house. needed more time but mold is ready and got time until next tuna trip. hope by then its already... check this out needed more info. about window and handrailing..please if any info? many thanks. berry
ops sorry dont know how to add images yet
whaler220 posted 11-28-2009 01:40 AM ET (US)     Profile for whaler220  Send Email to whaler220     
here is my project at home its a home made pilot house for my boston whaler http://s931.photobucket.com/albums/ad160/whaler220
HAPPYJIM posted 11-28-2009 03:34 AM ET (US)     Profile for HAPPYJIM  Send Email to HAPPYJIM     
I looks very nice. Make sure you have plenty of wood to fasten it down. Make sure you post pictures when finished.

Your old T-top looks like it needed a lot of gussets welded in the corners.

FC posted 11-28-2009 07:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for FC  Send Email to FC     
I did a total restoration from center console to a pilot house on my current 22 guardian. I constructed it out of aluminum and it handles beautifully.

http://i158.photobucket.com/albums/t86/pilot22_photos/Picture005.jpg

whaler220 posted 11-28-2009 11:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for whaler220  Send Email to whaler220     
thats. very nice job. looks very good ...about mind i need more time and work at the inside part of my project. it maybe done next year .i post more picture soon.
JayR posted 11-29-2009 05:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for JayR  Send Email to JayR     
FC, I would love to see more photos.
FC posted 11-29-2009 08:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for FC  Send Email to FC     
It took a total of 4 years to complete the boat with just myself and my son working on weekends (including the professional glass work shown in the slide show). The 18 outrage shown is my previous boat. This is from start to finish. Enjoy


http://s158.photobucket.com/albums/t86/pilot22_photos/

Jeff posted 11-30-2009 10:21 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jeff  Send Email to Jeff     
FC Outstanding work on your boat. Very well done. One question though...how do the twin E-Tec 90's push that vessel along with the added weight of the build construction and the pilot house?
FC posted 11-30-2009 11:35 AM ET (US)     Profile for FC  Send Email to FC     
The twin 90's are plenty of power for the boat. I'm not worried about running in at plane on one engine, I just want to make it in and not have to wait on Vessel Assist. However if the 115's were available at the time of purchase that would have been a better choice. The great thing about fishing boats is that each person has their own version of what a fishing boat should be.
Buckda posted 11-30-2009 12:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for Buckda  Send Email to Buckda     
*DROOL*
Nice work FC!
whaler220 posted 01-17-2010 08:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for whaler220  Send Email to whaler220     
[I installed] my homemade pilot house on my boat today. Here are pictures of the pilot house.
R T M posted 01-17-2010 08:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for R T M    
In my opinion, wrapping a center console in canvas might give you some protection, but it is not considered a pilot house. Here are some pictures of a real pilot house boat, a 20' Shamrock Pilot House. it offers protection from the elements for four people. Has sliding side doors. These pilot house models have been built since c.1975. By now many of the hulls have deteriorated and I have seen on occasion just a pilot house for sale, however I was unsuccessful in finding one for a member a couple of years ago. They were built by Shamrock Marine in Cape Coral, Florida, and are a common boat in most of Florida. It might be worth it to try to find a pilot house off a deteriorated or wrecked boat.

rich/Binkie

Nantucket Sleighride posted 01-18-2010 03:37 AM ET (US)     Profile for Nantucket Sleighride  Send Email to Nantucket Sleighride     
Sean

Nantucket Sleighride looks right at home in the crystal clear waters of Hawaii.
This is a series of photographs showing the construction of the pilot house from bare decks to completion.
http://s389.photobucket.com/albums/oo336/Nantucket_Sleighride/ ?action=view¤t=22barehull.jpg

All the very best to you, your wonderful family, and your 22' Guardian "Nantucket Sleighride".

Bill

phatwhaler posted 01-18-2010 08:06 AM ET (US)     Profile for phatwhaler  Send Email to phatwhaler     
I had a 20 Shamrock with a pilot house for two years before I bought my Whaler. The problem with the PH was that it was small inside. I'm 5'10"/180lbs and I had to contort to enter the pilot house. Once you were in there they were pretty comfy though. The back seats didn't provide much protection for the occupants either.

It was a cool boat that got more ooohs and ahhhs at the ramp than my Whaler ever has. However it was slow and we called it the "Slamrock" for a reason.

whaler220 posted 03-20-2010 02:54 AM ET (US)     Profile for whaler220  Send Email to whaler220     
[I] just got the window installed today[.] [I] have pick the tinted one[.] [H]ope that works on dark[.] [H]ere is the picture[.]
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