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pecos23 posted 03-15-2009 05:30 PM ET (US)   Profile for pecos23   Send Email to pecos23  
[Asked how to repair non-skid areas of a 1993 Boston Whaler OUTRAGE.]
SC Joe posted 03-15-2009 05:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for SC Joe  Send Email to SC Joe     
I've seen this syuff used on Ship Shape TV with impressive results..but not in real life. Take that (as an advertisement)for what it's worth.

http://www.masepoxies.com/public/index.cfm?fuseaction=prodbrws. publicdetail&productid=777755

jimh posted 03-16-2009 07:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
You can make your own mold by taking an impression of the non-skid pattern. This will guarantee you get the right pattern.
pecos23 posted 03-16-2009 10:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for pecos23  Send Email to pecos23     
i have read about taking an impression of the current non-skid but haven't found any posts on how to do it or what type of materials to buy for making the mold. can you offer any suggestions? thanks
HAPPYJIM posted 03-16-2009 11:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for HAPPYJIM  Send Email to HAPPYJIM     
I did a quick search using "Non-Skid Repair" and came up with 214 threads about Non-Skid Repair. After reading about 10 of them there were several ideas from using Play-Doe to silicon molds costing hundreds of dollars.
HAPPYJIM posted 03-16-2009 11:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for HAPPYJIM  Send Email to HAPPYJIM     
I forgot to add that the search feature is just under the "new topic" box.
jimh posted 03-16-2009 11:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/006514.html

The above contains advice on making an impression and mold of existing gel coat non-skid pattern.

It is very easy to use our local search engine to find results. Read these discussions, found with this simple search:

http://continuouswave.com/cgi-bin/sw.pl?Search=non-skid+repair

Jeff posted 03-17-2009 08:41 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jeff  Send Email to Jeff     
Dave,

I have made my own nonskid molds and they do not work as well as the Gibco ones you can buy from Minicraft.

Here are a couple articles on DIY repairs
http://www.minicraft.com/retail/gibco/SRInst01.htm
http://www.minicraft.com/Retail/Gibco/LAInst01.htm
http://www.epoxyworks.com/22/pdf/Ew22_Nonskid.pdf

Here are some images of the molds I made.
http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v427/jeff_rohlfing/Floor%20repair/ ?action=view¤t=IMGP2383.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v427/jeff_rohlfing/Floor%20repair/ IMGP2384.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v427/jeff_rohlfing/Floor%20repair/ IMGP2385.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v427/jeff_rohlfing/Floor%20repair/ IMGP2388.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v427/jeff_rohlfing/Floor%20repair/ IMGP2397-1.jpg
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pecos23 posted 03-18-2009 08:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for pecos23  Send Email to pecos23     
[For heaven's sake--doesn't anyone read the damn guidelines about capitalization in writing style on this website? Please stop writing like a two-year-old and use simple rules of capitalization. There are only three: spell the personal pronoun "I" correctly; capitalize the first letter of the first word of each sentence; capitalize proper nouns. Is everyone brain dead?--jimh]

[From] what [I] have read, the [Gibco] and [Minicraft] molds do not fit the [Whaler] non-skid as advertised. [This] is why [I] pointed out that the current posts fail to offer a good solution to this problem. [Continuouswave] and [Whaler Central]. [Many] suggestions, no solid solutions. [The] flexible mold solution seems like a good idea, but other than the advertisements from the manufacturers, there are simply no posts that follow up with acceptable outcomes. [Thanks], jeff.

jimh posted 03-18-2009 09:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
My impression of how one makes a mold and successfully uses it to make a repair--if you will pardon that pun--is the process requires some technique and attention to detail. It may not be possible to get perfect results the first time you try it. Hell, I can't get most of my gel coat resin batches to even cure. So it does not surprise me that there are not dozens of glowing reports of success. The method is described. It is not particularly a failing of the website that no one reports that it worked like a champ. If you think there is some better method out there waiting to be discovered, then go find it. But don't complain that there is not information about how to do it. Go do it, find a better way, then come back and tell us about it. The nature of these discussions is collaborative and interactive. If you didn't find the information you wanted, it might just be that no one has accomplished it and contributed the information.
pecos23 posted 04-06-2009 05:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for pecos23  Send Email to pecos23     
well i have a wonderful repair on my non skid and refuse to share it with the group because Jim treated me like a complete idiot. i will not capitalize anything. jim you are an ASS, there is your proper noun.
jimh posted 04-06-2009 11:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Congratulations on your fine repair. I am glad the instructions the website gave you were useful.

I can understand your problems in group social interaction. People who work with polyester resins often suffer loss of mental capacity and social skills from working with these toxic chemicals. Read those warning labels. I have quit working with them for those reasons.

Ritzyrags posted 04-08-2009 12:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for Ritzyrags  Send Email to Ritzyrags     
And for the sake of tempering things a bit;
I have found that to always use the "proper" safety gear will always make the job resurfacing with Polyester or Epoxy resins a breeze.
I will always recommend to use a good quality respirator with the usual Organic vapor barrier protection when working with resins and gels.
Glasses or a shield should also be worn.
A white coverall is my preferred covering and inexpensive rubber gloves will complete the safety gear set.
The whole lot will always be a bit sweaty but one has to consider the alternative.
http://www.nextag.com/paint-respirator/search-html
Also to be mentioned;
The importance to read the MSDS.Or information about the product to be used.To prevent any and all eventualities.
Having done a bit of homework will go a long way in making the job more enjoyable and safe.
RM NY posted 04-08-2009 10:08 AM ET (US)     Profile for RM NY  Send Email to RM NY     
The reasons new flex molds do not fit the older boats is because the non-skid wears down, you will just have to make do with what you get.

Mas is re-selling Gibco's molds, so you can pay way too much and get it from Mas, or buy it right from the source.

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