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cgodfrey posted 01-14-2010 07:25 AM ET (US)
There are a number of manufacturers which produce and advertise an extra wide, 'Super Sport' style mahogany console claiming to be compatible with my first generation/classic hull, and I'm very interested in purchasing one.
The original Sport Console mounts to a small piece of wood embedded into the floor. However, I don't understand how the wider console could do the same. Is simply fastening it to the fiberglass deck is an acceptable practice?
I'm hoping someone can clear this one up for me, as it's been nagging me for a very long time.
Thanks,
CG
Tohsgib posted 01-14-2010 01:49 PM ET (US)
I am mounting a 15' sport console in mine soon. It is the same as the 13' console just wider. From what i hear there is wood in deck to mount to(I have a diagram and will check one day). If not epoxying the little wood foot to the deck would be plenty strong then the console mounts to that. If you have an older hull with the "ditch" down the middle, you might need a taller block.
R T M posted 01-14-2010 02:54 PM ET (US)
The proper way to install a console to the deck if there is no wood under the deck where you want to install the console is this:
Set the console where you want it and set the cleat(s) in place and draw a pencil line around the cleat. remove the console and with making tape the cleat to the floor. Drill two holes in each cleat for the size screw you are going to use, and drill through the glass floor. Remove the cleat(s) and then redrill the hole in the floor to at least 1/4" or a little larger (3/8") bit. Now chuck an allan wrench in your drill, (long side chucked in the drill) fit the short side into the two holes you just drilled, and ream out the foam around the hole down as far as you can go. Then Suck out the loose foam with a vacuum. Now fill the void with epoxy or Gorilla Glue, which will expand so don`t use too much. Then set the cleat back in place on the floor(that is why you drew a pencil line around it). and re drill through the holes you drilled in the cleat, and into the epoxy filled area. Now screw the cleat down. (It is as strong or stronger than a cleat fastened into wood backing.) Now set your console over the cleat(s), and screw the console into the cleat(s). It will be there until you unscrew it.
If you epoxy the cleats to the floor, and you jump a wake at some point in time, you, the steering wheel, and the console will probably leave the boat. LOL
tedstrat posted 01-14-2010 10:10 PM ET (US)
RTM
INteresting method which i will likely use too. One question; seems like you would allow the epoxy or glue to dry first in the reamed out holes so the new screws have something to bite into, right?
R T M posted 01-15-2010 07:19 AM ET (US)
You are correct.
rich/binkie
Tohsgib posted 01-15-2010 12:25 PM ET (US)
I did not mean epoxy the cleat, I meant epoxy the screws that hold down the cleat with say 4200 or 5200 or as rich suggests.
cgodfrey posted 01-16-2010 05:47 AM ET (US)
I should have looked in the Marketplace Forum. Related thread.
http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/018640.html

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Author	Topic: Wide console in an old 13'
cgodfrey	posted 01-14-2010 07:25 AM ET (US) There are a number of manufacturers which produce and advertise an extra wide, 'Super Sport' style mahogany console claiming to be compatible with my first generation/classic hull, and I'm very interested in purchasing one. The original Sport Console mounts to a small piece of wood embedded into the floor. However, I don't understand how the wider console could do the same. Is simply fastening it to the fiberglass deck is an acceptable practice? I'm hoping someone can clear this one up for me, as it's been nagging me for a very long time. Thanks, CG
Tohsgib	posted 01-14-2010 01:49 PM ET (US) I am mounting a 15' sport console in mine soon. It is the same as the 13' console just wider. From what i hear there is wood in deck to mount to(I have a diagram and will check one day). If not epoxying the little wood foot to the deck would be plenty strong then the console mounts to that. If you have an older hull with the "ditch" down the middle, you might need a taller block.
R T M	posted 01-14-2010 02:54 PM ET (US) The proper way to install a console to the deck if there is no wood under the deck where you want to install the console is this: Set the console where you want it and set the cleat(s) in place and draw a pencil line around the cleat. remove the console and with making tape the cleat to the floor. Drill two holes in each cleat for the size screw you are going to use, and drill through the glass floor. Remove the cleat(s) and then redrill the hole in the floor to at least 1/4" or a little larger (3/8") bit. Now chuck an allan wrench in your drill, (long side chucked in the drill) fit the short side into the two holes you just drilled, and ream out the foam around the hole down as far as you can go. Then Suck out the loose foam with a vacuum. Now fill the void with epoxy or Gorilla Glue, which will expand so don`t use too much. Then set the cleat back in place on the floor(that is why you drew a pencil line around it). and re drill through the holes you drilled in the cleat, and into the epoxy filled area. Now screw the cleat down. (It is as strong or stronger than a cleat fastened into wood backing.) Now set your console over the cleat(s), and screw the console into the cleat(s). It will be there until you unscrew it. If you epoxy the cleats to the floor, and you jump a wake at some point in time, you, the steering wheel, and the console will probably leave the boat. LOL
tedstrat	posted 01-14-2010 10:10 PM ET (US) RTM INteresting method which i will likely use too. One question; seems like you would allow the epoxy or glue to dry first in the reamed out holes so the new screws have something to bite into, right?
R T M	posted 01-15-2010 07:19 AM ET (US) You are correct. rich/binkie
Tohsgib	posted 01-15-2010 12:25 PM ET (US) I did not mean epoxy the cleat, I meant epoxy the screws that hold down the cleat with say 4200 or 5200 or as rich suggests.
cgodfrey	posted 01-16-2010 05:47 AM ET (US) I should have looked in the Marketplace Forum. Related thread. http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/018640.html