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Ridge Runner posted 03-07-2010 02:34 PM ET (US)   Profile for Ridge Runner   Send Email to Ridge Runner  
An ebay seller is reproducing capacity decals for some classic Whalers. Is this legal?

[url]http://motors.shop.ebay.com/down_stream/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=& _ipg=[/url]

Ridge Runner posted 03-07-2010 02:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ridge Runner  Send Email to Ridge Runner     
http://motors.shop.ebay.com/down_stream/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_from=& _ipg=
dino54904 posted 03-16-2010 11:02 AM ET (US)     Profile for dino54904  Send Email to dino54904     
I purchased reproduction capacity plates for my restored Whaler and never thought about the legality. As long as the information on the plates is the same as the original you should not have a problem with the USCG. If anything the issue would be between Whaler and the creator of the plates for any copyright infractions.

Dino

Zamboni65 posted 03-16-2010 11:15 AM ET (US)     Profile for Zamboni65  Send Email to Zamboni65     
Why do you need these decals? I have never seen them on the sailboats I sail on (new to powerboats)
Plotman posted 03-16-2010 12:56 PM ET (US)     Profile for Plotman  Send Email to Plotman     
That format is the one specified by the NMMA, not whaler. If you are simply reproducing the original information on a boat you own, with no intent to defraud anyone, I can't imagine there being any legal ramifications.

jimh posted 03-16-2010 07:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
What copyright would be infringed?
Whalerific posted 03-17-2010 02:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whalerific  Send Email to Whalerific     
Yes I think it is legal, but also think it would be a very tedious process to remove the original by drilling out the rivets, repair the holes and re-rivet, all without damage to the surrounding gelcoat.
Jeff posted 03-17-2010 02:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jeff  Send Email to Jeff     
I have remade my own capacity plates for a number of Boston Whalers. It is a very easy process to drill out the rivets on the plate. I then flip the plate over and sand the backside smooth. Clean it with lacquer thinner, apply white vinyl to the back (or apply decal if you have one), I then apply my decal that I print from a laser printer printed on Chartpak 5-mil Self adhesive drafting film, and finish with a layer of clear UV mylar.

Edge trim with a brand new exacto blade and cut x's over the rivet holes.

To re-secure the plate I add some 3M 4200 into the rivet holes and re-affix the plate with 4 stainless screws.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v427/jeff_rohlfing/Floor%20repair/ DSC00729.jpg

dino54904 posted 03-22-2010 08:37 AM ET (US)     Profile for dino54904  Send Email to dino54904     
I thought there could be a copyright issue if there is a Boston Whaler or NMMA logo on the reproduction plate.
Waccamaw Whaler posted 03-23-2010 10:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for Waccamaw Whaler  Send Email to Waccamaw Whaler     
Be careful if they are selling generic capacity plates rather than one specific to your boat model & year. For example, what they show on the eBay advertisement for a "17' Boston Whaler Replacement Maximum Capacities Decal" is:

7 persons 885 lbs., 1415 lbs. persons, motor & gear and 100 HP


The actual capacity plate on my 17' 1993 Outrage indicates:

6 persons or 815 lbs., 1365 lbs. persons, motor and gear, 120 HP.


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Zamboni65 posted 03-25-2010 12:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for Zamboni65  Send Email to Zamboni65     
Still looking for an answer here. Why do you need these decals? I have never seen them on the sailboats I sail on (new to powerboats.
Jeff posted 03-25-2010 01:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jeff  Send Email to Jeff     
Z,

I am not 100% sure if it is a Coast Guard requirement for you as an owner of a private vessel to have this capacity plate always afixed and readable. Manufactures however are required to have these afixed on compliant monohull vessels under 20' in length as they leave the factory.

[URL]http://www.discoverboating.com/resources/article.aspx?id=69[\URL]

Because these items fade and wear over the years many look to renew, or replace what they have for aesthetical reasons.

Jeff posted 03-25-2010 02:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jeff  Send Email to Jeff     
http://www.discoverboating.com/resources/article.aspx?id=69

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