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Jake B posted 09-03-2010 05:39 PM ET (US)   Profile for Jake B   Send Email to Jake B  
Im not much of a typer, or TV reporter as you will see. I ran my boat into a sand bar during low tide this weekend so I removed the lower end to look for damage. The drive shaft seems to have a lot of play, and the water pump seems to be leaking. Or is one related to the other? Any help would be greatly appreciated.
-Jake

www.youtube.com/watch?v=6UqXqABXaGk

SJUAE posted 09-03-2010 05:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for SJUAE  Send Email to SJUAE     
See the video in this link on water pump replacement

http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/017849.html

Regards
Steve

Jake B posted 09-03-2010 09:39 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jake B  Send Email to Jake B     
Now thats a great video! Looks like Im heading to the dealer for a new water pump kit. Im still wondering if it is OK to see water coming from the seam between the lower case and the exhaust case? The steam coming out the pee tube is strong, am I being over concerned?
-Jake
contender posted 09-03-2010 10:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for contender  Send Email to contender     
The drive shaft is moving to much, when you hit the sand bar was the engine in the lock position or did it kick up? You need to have the lower unit looked at...
seahorse posted 09-04-2010 12:01 AM ET (US)     Profile for seahorse  Send Email to seahorse     
quote:

The drive shaft seems to have a lot of play

Your gearcase has a 2 piece driveshaft and the play you see is the upper shaft moving inside the splines and retainer of the lower driveshaft.

If they haven't been replaced since new in 1997, it would be a good idea to install new driveshaft seals in it while you have everything apart.

seahorse posted 09-04-2010 12:16 AM ET (US)     Profile for seahorse  Send Email to seahorse     

quote:

The drive shaft seems to have a lot of play

Your gearcase has a 2 piece driveshaft and the play you see is the upper shaft moving inside the splines and retainer of the lower driveshaft.

If they haven't been replaced since new in 1997, it would be a good idea to install new driveshaft seals in it while you have everything apart.

Jake B posted 09-04-2010 07:02 AM ET (US)     Profile for Jake B  Send Email to Jake B     
When I ran a ground the motor stayed down. It really felt and looked like crushed shells. I sucked up enough to clog the pee tube. We noticed that right away and cleaned it out. On the way home we ran without the little tube that controls the direction of the stream. The guy I bought the boat from said he had just spent $800 on the lower end. I don't know where. The prop shaft is tight side to side, there is a little play front to back. I will ad drive shaft seal to the shopping list, and some new gear oil....never seen anyone fill a gear case from the drain plug?
-Jake
contender posted 09-04-2010 05:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for contender  Send Email to contender     
Jake you are suppose to run/have the engine in the unlocked position when using/running it in the water, You may have caused the lower unit some damaged, the motor is suppose to be able to kick up in-case of hitting something. Otherwise the problems that may occur, spin the prop, snap the drive shaft, hole in lower unit, or the gears in the lower unit. You need to have the lower unit checked, sorry for your mistake/problem....good luck
seahorse posted 09-04-2010 06:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for seahorse  Send Email to seahorse     
The engine "kick up" force is engineered into the trim system hydraulics, so the motor won't "kick up" when powering in reverse.

Jake B posted 09-04-2010 08:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jake B  Send Email to Jake B     
Thanks for the help. Im a complete newbee. The motor has electric trim control. I'm not sure I understand how to unlock it? After watching a couple videos, it seems pretty normal to see water coming from the seam between the lower case and the exhaust case.
-Jake
Jake B posted 09-09-2010 06:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jake B  Send Email to Jake B     
So I got all my parts together and noticed a difference between the old water pump housing and the new one. The old one has a hole and the new one doesn't. Is there supposed to be a hole? Is this some kind of a modification? I don't want to put it together if I got a dud part. I once got a water pump for an old Mustang that had not been tapped for the fan blade bolts. Probably made on a Friday. Thanks.
-Jake

http://s957.photobucket.com/albums/ae52/AllyConstruction/water%20pump/ ?action=view¤t=IMG_2488.jpg

seahorse posted 09-10-2010 01:06 AM ET (US)     Profile for seahorse  Send Email to seahorse     

quote:

So I got all my parts together and noticed a difference between the old water pump housing and the new one. The old one has a hole and the new one doesn't. Is there supposed to be a hole?


There are 2 different water pump kits for the larger engines

#5001595 has no hole in the pump housing and is used on motors with the "split-line" midsection

#5001594 has the hole in the output area of the pump housing and is used on tradtional mid-sections

The engine model number is required to tell which pump is needed when looking up the parts


The housings cannot be interchanged as the water pressure would be different and could cause overcooling or overheating.

Jake B posted 09-10-2010 12:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jake B  Send Email to Jake B     
Thanks for the reply Seahorse.
The engine is an 1997 Evinrude 200 E200TXEUA. The BRP box is labeled 5001595. I bought it at a local dealer, not sure if he looked it up right. When I asked for the water pump kit, he brought out only the impeller at first. I really appreciate the help. I pressurized the gear case last night and had no leaks, then I pulled a vacuum which is still holding today. Im so eager to get this back together, but I want it right.
-Jake
Jake B posted 09-10-2010 04:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jake B  Send Email to Jake B     
So I just got off the phone with the service tech at the Evinrude Dealer here in Charlotte. He said not to worry about the hole, that the "new style" doesn't have a hole so more water goes to the power head. Don't worry? Now I am worried!
Jake
seahorse posted 09-10-2010 06:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for seahorse  Send Email to seahorse     
You better be worried, that person doesn't know what he or she is talking about.

Your motor is a 25" shaft and requires the 5001595 water pump kit whose housing is without a hole. Your pump is exposed through the split-line gearcase and if you used a housing with the hole, the water pressure would be less and would spray out the hole into the open split-line gap.

Insist on them either exchanging the 5001595 kit and make sure the housing has NO hole in it or exchange just the housing to the no-hole version.

I'll bet they robbed parts from the kit and ordered the wrong one to put back.

Not that long ago the holey housing was a white colored plastic and the solid one was black. Lately they both are black and you have to look to be sure of the correct one.

You can calm your worries by calling the factory customer service line at 847-689-7090 and they will repeat what I just wrote here.

Jake B posted 09-10-2010 08:24 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jake B  Send Email to Jake B     
Thanks again Seahorse.
I called another dealer this afternoon and gave him my model #. His book called for 5001594, the water pump kit with the hole. To be clear the old housing had a hole, the kit I purchased (5001595) does not have a hole. So do I have the right kit? Go with the no-hole housing? I cant find either of theses part #'s anywhere. They all seem to list part # 0435929 for the water pump kit.
-Jake

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