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Teak Oil posted 03-19-2012 07:39 PM ET (US)   Profile for Teak Oil   Send Email to Teak Oil  
I want to order the factory replacement stern seat, but I wont want to have it in the boat all the time. It will probably only be in for long trips. I want the rear of the boat open for fishing.

How easy is it to remove the factory seat? Is it even practical to try?

Thanks

Jeff posted 03-19-2012 08:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jeff  Send Email to Jeff     
Bob,

You could fashion something like I did on my Outrage:

https://sites.google.com/site/bostonwhalersternseat/

It worked great and with the removal of two pins at the hinge point the seat bottom came out and you were just left with the seat back. That too came out easily but, it provided a good place to lean against while reeling in a fish off the stern.

The current owners had Halls make a full cushion set for the seat in the OEM pleated material and it looks great.

If I was to do it over again I would have epoxy coated the wood and shot gelcoat over it. Which is what I am sure I will do when I find an 18 Outrage....someday.

If you want an OEM Seat I do know of someone with one in Indiana that is really nice for $250.

Teak Oil posted 03-19-2012 10:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for Teak Oil  Send Email to Teak Oil     
Jeff I saw the seat you made and it looked great, but I am not a woodworker by any means.

I have done a lot of searching and found no mention of anyone removing a factory seat periodically, so that would seem to indicate what I am thinking of doing is not very practical.

I saw that a fold down factory seat may have been optional, but I have not been able to find any pictures of them.

ALAN G posted 03-20-2012 07:53 PM ET (US)     Profile for ALAN G  Send Email to ALAN G     
Teak Oil: I have a 1990 Revenge 22. From the photos of the Outrage, it looks like the optional stern seat was identical. If that is truly the case, it is not practical to remove it for fishing, although it probably takes only about 15 minutes to do so. The seat is supported vertically on the deck by 4 legs, each with a bracket screwed to the deck with 2 screws. It is supported horizontally by a stainless steel cross rail that runs from gunnel to gunnel behind the seat back. The rail has 3 brackets which are attached to the back of the seat by screws.

So with this setup, you would have to remove the 8 deck screws and 6 seat back screws in order to remove the seat...not a big deal. But the cross rail is bolted into the gunnels and more difficult to remove if you wanted to have the stern of the boat open. You could just keep the rail in place for fishing, and then the only concerns you would have is what to do with the open holes from the deck screws. If they go into wood, you would want to seal them after every removal to prevent water from getting into the backing wood.

Hope this helps with your deliberations!

Al

Teak Oil posted 03-20-2012 08:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for Teak Oil  Send Email to Teak Oil     
Thanks Alan.

No, I would not be removing screws all the time, thats for sure. Leaving the rear bar in place would not be a big deal, I just want to keep the floor space clear.

How about leaving the floor mounts in and maybe pinning the legs in place? Also I would probably have to have an SS hook type system to go over the rear rail.

For those that have the seat would this be practical at all?

Thanks

russellbailey posted 03-20-2012 09:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for russellbailey  Send Email to russellbailey     
You might consider having one made just like you want. Mine is made with a leaning post-style construction. It is very solid and easy to put in and out. Here is what I had made for my Outrage 25.

http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/018912.html

I largely leave it in but sometimes skip the backrests. The backrest mounts are rod holders. If I was an avid fisherman I think I'd likely take off the bottom seat cushion (4 screws) and put a more durable top surface on and use that as a cutting board/work surface for fishing.

It was comparable in cost to a factory seat, but if you design your own you can get just what you want.

ALAN G posted 03-20-2012 09:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for ALAN G  Send Email to ALAN G     
T.O.: Yes, you could modify the base for a quick removal pin, but any portion of the base remaining would be above deck and could be a tripping hazard. If you found some kind of fitting that was like a socket and was flush with the deck, you would be in business. For the attachment to the cross rail, you probably could come up with some sort of 90 degree twist fitting. Conceptually this would be like auto interior trim buttons....you twist them 90 degrees and the slots line up so they can be withdrawn...or the old auto shoe brake retainers. Even using some hand removable Tee fittings or twist grip handles could make removal of the seat back screws easier/quicker. I am sure there are solutions, especially if you don't mind the cross rail. Actually for fishing, the cross rail could be a great place to steady yourself while reeling in the catch...especially if you added a padded bolster to it!

If you use the boat for cruising, lounging, swimming or skiing, having the seat back there is very handy and comfortable. Also, while underway at speed, that is the part of the boat that pounds the least and would be semi-protected from wind by your center console. Passengers that don't stand or prefer to sit seem to like it. It is worth further consideration before giving up or deciding to go with some custom/removable option like the fold down mentioned.

Al

Teak Oil posted 03-20-2012 09:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for Teak Oil  Send Email to Teak Oil     
Thanks for the info Al, thats exactly the kind of info I was looking for.

Bob

Russ 13 posted 03-21-2012 01:23 AM ET (US)     Profile for Russ 13  Send Email to Russ 13     
I have a 22 Cuddy that came with a very rotten bench seat.
I am going to have a custom aluminum seat made.
But it will only go 3/4 across the stern, as I want access
to the Port stern for swimming/diving & I still want unobstructed access to the livewell.
I am thinking of a padded bench w/ a removable
backrest. Hope to have it finished in the next few months.

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