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Teak Oil posted 04-04-2012 07:59 PM ET (US)
The through hull fittings in the splash well of my 22 Outrage are in pretty bad shape. While removing my main engine I noticed both the through hull fittings were badly cracked. Is there rubber backing on these fittings or are they putting moisture into my transom?
Both are bad, this is the best pic I could get
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v735/MontaukBob/102_4075.jpg
Can I get replacement fittings from West Marine?
Thanks
Teak Oil posted 04-04-2012 08:36 PM ET (US)
I got the old fittings out, they disintegrated upon removal.
It looks to me like the old fittings are 1 1/4" diameter, is that correct?
I don't see a 1 1/4 inch fitting on West Marines website but that doesnt mean much
Teak Oil posted 04-04-2012 08:38 PM ET (US)
Also the holes are moist but not soft, so it looks like I discovered the problem in time to avoid transom issues.
I guess a lightbulb on the transom for a few days ought to dry it out good, right?
Russ 13 posted 04-04-2012 11:27 PM ET (US)
BW has changed these fittings to nylon, on the new boats.
I replaced both of mine with the new style nylon parts.
Had to drill the holes a bit larger, but no problems, make sure to use a good sealant. I used Boatlife Marine Sealer/
adhesive with good results.
andygere posted 04-05-2012 01:00 AM ET (US)
Teak,
I replaced those on my Outrage using the Tom W. Clark method (in fact, I used Tom W. Clark himself). They are larger tubing than the floor drain tubes, 1.25", I think. McMaster Carr is the source for the material (brass tubing and O-rings). Measure the OD carefully and order 3 feet.
http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-brass-tubing/=gyv1py
Replacement method is the same as the floor tubes but easier. I suspect that Tom had a larger flaring die for the air chisel, but that should be easy to source at McMaster as well.
Here are the tools and materials you need.
http://home.comcast.net/~tomwclark/drain_tubes.jpg
This thread covers most of the Clark drain tube method, which works really well.
http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/009805.html
The only thing that works better is to have Tom drop by your house and show you how to do the job. And that does happen.
gusgus posted 04-05-2012 04:38 AM ET (US)
replacing these are actually pretty easy if the tubes are softened by annealing. I was shocked how easy it was.
Teak Oil posted 04-05-2012 09:03 AM ET (US)
Thanks for the replies. Since my 225 is precariously balanced from my ceiling hoist right now I need to find a local source to buy the materials.
From Jim's FAQ it looks like I need .032 thick 1.25" dia brass tubing, is that correct? Also I will need a few O-rings. West Marine and a marginal BW dealer are the only boating stores around. Has anyone purchased these items from West Marine lately?
andygere posted 04-05-2012 07:32 PM ET (US)
Teak,
For what it's worth, McMaster had the stuff to me in a day or two. Grainger or another industrial supplier in your area may have the stuff as well, and have counter pick up so you can get it immediately. I've never seen the larger tubing stock at West Marine.
Teak Oil posted 04-05-2012 07:35 PM ET (US)
Since my Evinrude is balanced on a block of wood hanging from the ceiling I had McMaster overnight the tubing and o-rings so I should have it tomorrow.
The price of brass has certainly gone up, 46 bucks for three feet vs $20 in 2007
Teak Oil posted 04-08-2012 09:31 AM ET (US)
I have to admit I impressed myself with my blacksmithing skills. Thanks to the advice here and having three feet of tubing to practice on I was pretty happy with how everything turned out. Thanks again for the help
jimh posted 04-08-2012 12:09 PM ET (US)
Were any pictures taken during the installation of the new drain tubes?
Teak Oil posted 04-08-2012 05:19 PM ET (US)
I did not think to take any pics Jim, but I have some tube left so I can take a few and email them to you if you want some to add to your FAQ.

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Author	Topic: Splash Well Drain Replacement
Teak Oil	posted 04-04-2012 07:59 PM ET (US) The through hull fittings in the splash well of my 22 Outrage are in pretty bad shape. While removing my main engine I noticed both the through hull fittings were badly cracked. Is there rubber backing on these fittings or are they putting moisture into my transom? Both are bad, this is the best pic I could get http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v735/MontaukBob/102_4075.jpg Can I get replacement fittings from West Marine? Thanks
Teak Oil	posted 04-04-2012 08:36 PM ET (US) I got the old fittings out, they disintegrated upon removal. It looks to me like the old fittings are 1 1/4" diameter, is that correct? I don't see a 1 1/4 inch fitting on West Marines website but that doesnt mean much
Teak Oil	posted 04-04-2012 08:38 PM ET (US) Also the holes are moist but not soft, so it looks like I discovered the problem in time to avoid transom issues. I guess a lightbulb on the transom for a few days ought to dry it out good, right?
Russ 13	posted 04-04-2012 11:27 PM ET (US) BW has changed these fittings to nylon, on the new boats. I replaced both of mine with the new style nylon parts. Had to drill the holes a bit larger, but no problems, make sure to use a good sealant. I used Boatlife Marine Sealer/ adhesive with good results.
andygere	posted 04-05-2012 01:00 AM ET (US) Teak, I replaced those on my Outrage using the Tom W. Clark method (in fact, I used Tom W. Clark himself). They are larger tubing than the floor drain tubes, 1.25", I think. McMaster Carr is the source for the material (brass tubing and O-rings). Measure the OD carefully and order 3 feet. http://www.mcmaster.com/#standard-brass-tubing/=gyv1py Replacement method is the same as the floor tubes but easier. I suspect that Tom had a larger flaring die for the air chisel, but that should be easy to source at McMaster as well. Here are the tools and materials you need. http://home.comcast.net/~tomwclark/drain_tubes.jpg This thread covers most of the Clark drain tube method, which works really well. http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/009805.html The only thing that works better is to have Tom drop by your house and show you how to do the job. And that does happen.
gusgus	posted 04-05-2012 04:38 AM ET (US) replacing these are actually pretty easy if the tubes are softened by annealing. I was shocked how easy it was.
Teak Oil	posted 04-05-2012 09:03 AM ET (US) Thanks for the replies. Since my 225 is precariously balanced from my ceiling hoist right now I need to find a local source to buy the materials. From Jim's FAQ it looks like I need .032 thick 1.25" dia brass tubing, is that correct? Also I will need a few O-rings. West Marine and a marginal BW dealer are the only boating stores around. Has anyone purchased these items from West Marine lately?
andygere	posted 04-05-2012 07:32 PM ET (US) Teak, For what it's worth, McMaster had the stuff to me in a day or two. Grainger or another industrial supplier in your area may have the stuff as well, and have counter pick up so you can get it immediately. I've never seen the larger tubing stock at West Marine.
Teak Oil	posted 04-05-2012 07:35 PM ET (US) Since my Evinrude is balanced on a block of wood hanging from the ceiling I had McMaster overnight the tubing and o-rings so I should have it tomorrow. The price of brass has certainly gone up, 46 bucks for three feet vs $20 in 2007
Teak Oil	posted 04-08-2012 09:31 AM ET (US) I have to admit I impressed myself with my blacksmithing skills. Thanks to the advice here and having three feet of tubing to practice on I was pretty happy with how everything turned out. Thanks again for the help
jimh	posted 04-08-2012 12:09 PM ET (US) Were any pictures taken during the installation of the new drain tubes?
Teak Oil	posted 04-08-2012 05:19 PM ET (US) I did not think to take any pics Jim, but I have some tube left so I can take a few and email them to you if you want some to add to your FAQ.