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jimh posted 04-29-2012 09:58 AM ET (US)
[Some of the comments below originally were posted in reply to an advertisement of a FOR-SALE item in the MARKETPLACE forum.]
Jeff posted 04-24-2012 05:54 PM ET (US)
As a refrence, I have sold two pairs of [OEM Boston Whaler style Marinium sidelight lamps] and both were in good condition. One set were 7 out of 10's and went for $200 shipped. The 8/9 out of 10's brought $260 shipped. One set sold on eBay; the other here. I will dig through my emails and pass along the names of people who have contacted me since I sold the last pair who were looking for a set themselves.
These were the nice set
http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/020667.html
If you were thinking of heading the route of the replacements by Specialty Marine, I would say they are not worth the asking price. Many report them rusting after as little as the first season and others have reported electrical problems.
http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/019580.html .
If it were me, I would head the route of these Sea Dog Bow Lights They look to be a similar shape and style to the OEM Wilcox Crittenden ones with a much lower profile. They can be had for $75 at most places. I saw them recently and thought they could be a good option for those looking to replace their non-functioning or broken OEM Wilcox Crittenden Navigation lights.
http://www.sea-dog.com/groups/1326-led-top-mount-navigation-lights
lizard posted 04-24-2012 06:57 PM ET (US)
I had all of my lighting re-wired a couple of years ago, including the [sidelight lamps]. I wanted to go with LED replacements bulbs and found some, the base was the same size, the bulbs slightly larger. They sat closer to the lenses than the original bulb and burn hotter, I was afraid of melting or damaging the lenses from the heat over time.
I'd be curious to know if someone successfully did this conversion, what bulb they used and how they mitigated the heat from the LED.
Russ 13 posted 04-24-2012 11:13 PM ET (US)
Jeff--What did you use to get such a good polished shine on them??
gusgus posted 04-25-2012 05:30 AM ET (US)
Thank you for all the advice. I really like the Seadog lamps. They are smaller and still are custom looking. I will continue to research the LED replacement.
DVollrath posted 04-25-2012 10:09 AM ET (US)

quote:

I wanted to go with LED replacements bulbs and found some, the base was the same size, the bulbs slightly larger. They sat closer to the lenses than the original bulb and burn hotter, I was afraid of melting or damaging the lenses from the heat over time.
Lizard,
Do you have a link to the LED bulb you found? If it was felt hotter than the original incandescent bulb, I suspect it was putting out MUCH more light. Since LEDs are more efficient than incandescent bulbs, more of the supplied power is converted into lumens and less into heat. I too am interested in replacing some of my boat's incandescent bulbs with LEDs, but have not found any with the proper socket. Where did you see them?
Thanks.
Dennis
lizard posted 04-25-2012 12:37 PM ET (US)
Dennis- They were in a local auto parts store, AutoZone. I did not buy them but would be happy, at some point, to try to locate the part #. Of course, I would need my bulb to do the visual comparison again.
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/
gusgus posted 04-25-2012 02:13 PM ET (US)
Well this discussion has opened up some new thoughts and directions. I searched this morning for information and then confirmed the find on my own lamps. The bulbs used on my Outrage are #1076, using a BA15D base. That is a dual contact base for a single filament lamp. The lamp rating used was 23 watts. Searching for more and more information I found a few choices: http://www.bulbman.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=3764_3769 Looking at 12 and 14-VDC and 23-Watt, the selection is limited, but then I found this: http://www.batteriesexpert.com/lps-bulb.html/ ewl-led1076-20led-bulb-for-1076-2w-12v-cold-white
I like that choice. Now with a reflective background installed in the lamp bases this could be the perfect fix.
gusgus posted 04-26-2012 08:05 PM ET (US)
I found lamps for the original bases that are LED and only consume 2-Watts each of power. At 2-Watts how hot could it get? I think not much. A re-wire is in progress and the [orignal] lamp assemblies will be re-installed.

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Author	Topic: OEM Marinium Sidelight Lamps
jimh	posted 04-29-2012 09:58 AM ET (US) [Some of the comments below originally were posted in reply to an advertisement of a FOR-SALE item in the MARKETPLACE forum.]
Jeff	posted 04-24-2012 05:54 PM ET (US) As a refrence, I have sold two pairs of [OEM Boston Whaler style Marinium sidelight lamps] and both were in good condition. One set were 7 out of 10's and went for $200 shipped. The 8/9 out of 10's brought $260 shipped. One set sold on eBay; the other here. I will dig through my emails and pass along the names of people who have contacted me since I sold the last pair who were looking for a set themselves. These were the nice set http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/020667.html If you were thinking of heading the route of the replacements by Specialty Marine, I would say they are not worth the asking price. Many report them rusting after as little as the first season and others have reported electrical problems. http://continuouswave.com/ubb/Forum3/HTML/019580.html . If it were me, I would head the route of these Sea Dog Bow Lights They look to be a similar shape and style to the OEM Wilcox Crittenden ones with a much lower profile. They can be had for $75 at most places. I saw them recently and thought they could be a good option for those looking to replace their non-functioning or broken OEM Wilcox Crittenden Navigation lights. http://www.sea-dog.com/groups/1326-led-top-mount-navigation-lights
lizard	posted 04-24-2012 06:57 PM ET (US) I had all of my lighting re-wired a couple of years ago, including the [sidelight lamps]. I wanted to go with LED replacements bulbs and found some, the base was the same size, the bulbs slightly larger. They sat closer to the lenses than the original bulb and burn hotter, I was afraid of melting or damaging the lenses from the heat over time. I'd be curious to know if someone successfully did this conversion, what bulb they used and how they mitigated the heat from the LED.
Russ 13	posted 04-24-2012 11:13 PM ET (US) Jeff--What did you use to get such a good polished shine on them??
gusgus	posted 04-25-2012 05:30 AM ET (US) Thank you for all the advice. I really like the Seadog lamps. They are smaller and still are custom looking. I will continue to research the LED replacement.
DVollrath	posted 04-25-2012 10:09 AM ET (US) quote: I wanted to go with LED replacements bulbs and found some, the base was the same size, the bulbs slightly larger. They sat closer to the lenses than the original bulb and burn hotter, I was afraid of melting or damaging the lenses from the heat over time. Lizard, Do you have a link to the LED bulb you found? If it was felt hotter than the original incandescent bulb, I suspect it was putting out MUCH more light. Since LEDs are more efficient than incandescent bulbs, more of the supplied power is converted into lumens and less into heat. I too am interested in replacing some of my boat's incandescent bulbs with LEDs, but have not found any with the proper socket. Where did you see them? Thanks. Dennis
lizard	posted 04-25-2012 12:37 PM ET (US) Dennis- They were in a local auto parts store, AutoZone. I did not buy them but would be happy, at some point, to try to locate the part #. Of course, I would need my bulb to do the visual comparison again. http://www.autozone.com/autozone/
gusgus	posted 04-25-2012 02:13 PM ET (US) Well this discussion has opened up some new thoughts and directions. I searched this morning for information and then confirmed the find on my own lamps. The bulbs used on my Outrage are #1076, using a BA15D base. That is a dual contact base for a single filament lamp. The lamp rating used was 23 watts. Searching for more and more information I found a few choices: http://www.bulbman.com/index.php?main_page=index&cPath=3764_3769 Looking at 12 and 14-VDC and 23-Watt, the selection is limited, but then I found this: http://www.batteriesexpert.com/lps-bulb.html/ ewl-led1076-20led-bulb-for-1076-2w-12v-cold-white I like that choice. Now with a reflective background installed in the lamp bases this could be the perfect fix.
gusgus	posted 04-26-2012 08:05 PM ET (US) I found lamps for the original bases that are LED and only consume 2-Watts each of power. At 2-Watts how hot could it get? I think not much. A re-wire is in progress and the [orignal] lamp assemblies will be re-installed.