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jflots posted 02-27-2013 09:16 AM ET (US)
My recently aquired 18 Outrage has a full tank of 12 year old gas. I got a quote of $420 to have the gas pumped out and disposed of and the tank cleaned. They basicly fill is with fresh fuel and a cleaner to break down the crap, then pump it through a fiter system to clean the fuel and then retreat the new fuel.
I'd like to compare this to the cost of replacing the tank. I have a call into Florida Marine Tanks and waiting for a reply. In the mean time does anyone know of or have a drawing of the original tank so I can get it quoted?
thanks,

Jefecinco posted 02-27-2013 09:43 AM ET (US)
Have you considered disposing of the old fuel, filling the tank, adding Startron or Marine Sta-Bul and filtering the fresh fuel with your on-board filter while you consume it? The only good thing about ethanol is that it is an excellent fuel tank cleaner If you don't have an on-board filter now would be a good time to add one. In your case the 2 micron filter element may be a better choice.
You may find it necessary to change the on-board filter element a couple of times during a season.
Butch
jflots posted 02-27-2013 10:33 AM ET (US)
I have considered that. The description above is what was recomended...by the guy that wants the job of course.
I just realized my typo. The boat is a 1988, not a 1998.
thanks.
Tom W Clark posted 02-27-2013 10:45 AM ET (US)
$420 sounds perfectly reasonable.
A new tank will probably cost close to $1000, PLUS several hundred to have it shipped to you, PLUS you then have to install it, PLUS you still have to get rid of the fuel you already have in your tank.
A tank from 1988, may, or may not, be sound. If it is sound, it may, or may not, continue to be sound much longer.
I am unaware of any available drawings of the fuel tank, though I suspect FMT has them. I doubt they would share them with you so you can get a bid from a competitor of theirs.
Blackduck posted 02-27-2013 04:07 PM ET (US)
I found it took very little fuel, maybe 10 gallons of fresh ethanal, a primer bulb, and a 2 micron filter, to get my tank clean. Let the fresh fuel sit for a few days, then pump it thru the filter until it pumps clean.
Mike Kub posted 03-03-2013 11:55 AM ET (US)
I have an 86 OR 18 with the original tank.How would I know if there is a gas tank issue if Im having no problems?I do not want to find out 20 miles out in the Gulf.Peace.I love this web site.
Buckda posted 03-03-2013 06:56 PM ET (US)
@ mike kub -
You will need to have your tank pressure tested. This involves disconnecting the fuel lines and fittings and "plugging them" and then installing a low positive pressure (2-3psi, max) and basically waiting to see if it holds the pressure, or loses it.
I found that my foam around the tank was "bone dry" for the first three inches, and saturated below that. The inside of the tank, viewed via a boroscope, was clean and solid. The outside, however, was pitted due to the water in the foam being held against the tank for so long.
Replacement tanks will run about $15 per gallon of capacity (last year's pricing). Expect around $1000 shipped from FMT's factory in the Carolinas. If you can have it done locally, you can save the freight.
The biggest problem with new tanks is that no one is making them with the direct read gauge fittings anymore - and the gauges are more and more difficult to find. E-components.net, which is listed as a vendor for this part, has an alternate part, but it is not OEM, as that gauge series is not made anymore.
Dave
jflots posted 03-04-2013 03:31 PM ET (US)
I pulled the pickup/inspecion plate to see what I had and found the fuel level at the top of the tank. (in the back anyway). I pulled a pint out of it and it supprisingly looked and smelled like gas. So I've treated it with Startron and octane boost and syphoned about 2/3 into jerry cans. Also ordered a racor filter. I think I can slowly mix it with fresh gas and eventually use it up. An old 2 stroke Merc 135 should run on anything. Any thoughts on that?
thanks
Jefecinco posted 03-04-2013 07:33 PM ET (US)
I believe that is a good course of action. Enjoy!!
Butch
Tom W Clark posted 03-05-2013 11:41 AM ET (US)
It will be fine. When I bought my Revenge 25 it had about half a tank of gas that had been sitting for a year and a half. I just ran it and my 1989 Mercury 150s (same as the 135) didn't mind a bit.
hauptjm posted 03-06-2013 02:31 PM ET (US)

quote:
A new tank will probably cost close to $1000, PLUS several hundred to have it shipped to you, PLUS you then have to install it, PLUS you still have to get rid of the fuel you already have in your tank.
Tom is just about right on pricing. I did this exact repair last year (replace tank) and spent $800.00 on a new tank from FMT and $150.00 to ship. By the time you do all of the work (or worse, pay someone else to do it), you're easily into it for $1,000.00 - $1,500.00.

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Author	Topic: 1998 18 Outrage fuel tanks drawing
jflots	posted 02-27-2013 09:16 AM ET (US) My recently aquired 18 Outrage has a full tank of 12 year old gas. I got a quote of $420 to have the gas pumped out and disposed of and the tank cleaned. They basicly fill is with fresh fuel and a cleaner to break down the crap, then pump it through a fiter system to clean the fuel and then retreat the new fuel. I'd like to compare this to the cost of replacing the tank. I have a call into Florida Marine Tanks and waiting for a reply. In the mean time does anyone know of or have a drawing of the original tank so I can get it quoted? thanks,
Jefecinco	posted 02-27-2013 09:43 AM ET (US) Have you considered disposing of the old fuel, filling the tank, adding Startron or Marine Sta-Bul and filtering the fresh fuel with your on-board filter while you consume it? The only good thing about ethanol is that it is an excellent fuel tank cleaner If you don't have an on-board filter now would be a good time to add one. In your case the 2 micron filter element may be a better choice. You may find it necessary to change the on-board filter element a couple of times during a season. Butch
jflots	posted 02-27-2013 10:33 AM ET (US) I have considered that. The description above is what was recomended...by the guy that wants the job of course. I just realized my typo. The boat is a 1988, not a 1998. thanks.
Tom W Clark	posted 02-27-2013 10:45 AM ET (US) $420 sounds perfectly reasonable. A new tank will probably cost close to $1000, PLUS several hundred to have it shipped to you, PLUS you then have to install it, PLUS you still have to get rid of the fuel you already have in your tank. A tank from 1988, may, or may not, be sound. If it is sound, it may, or may not, continue to be sound much longer. I am unaware of any available drawings of the fuel tank, though I suspect FMT has them. I doubt they would share them with you so you can get a bid from a competitor of theirs.
Blackduck	posted 02-27-2013 04:07 PM ET (US) I found it took very little fuel, maybe 10 gallons of fresh ethanal, a primer bulb, and a 2 micron filter, to get my tank clean. Let the fresh fuel sit for a few days, then pump it thru the filter until it pumps clean.
Mike Kub	posted 03-03-2013 11:55 AM ET (US) I have an 86 OR 18 with the original tank.How would I know if there is a gas tank issue if Im having no problems?I do not want to find out 20 miles out in the Gulf.Peace.I love this web site.
Buckda	posted 03-03-2013 06:56 PM ET (US) @ mike kub - You will need to have your tank pressure tested. This involves disconnecting the fuel lines and fittings and "plugging them" and then installing a low positive pressure (2-3psi, max) and basically waiting to see if it holds the pressure, or loses it. I found that my foam around the tank was "bone dry" for the first three inches, and saturated below that. The inside of the tank, viewed via a boroscope, was clean and solid. The outside, however, was pitted due to the water in the foam being held against the tank for so long. Replacement tanks will run about $15 per gallon of capacity (last year's pricing). Expect around $1000 shipped from FMT's factory in the Carolinas. If you can have it done locally, you can save the freight. The biggest problem with new tanks is that no one is making them with the direct read gauge fittings anymore - and the gauges are more and more difficult to find. E-components.net, which is listed as a vendor for this part, has an alternate part, but it is not OEM, as that gauge series is not made anymore. Dave
jflots	posted 03-04-2013 03:31 PM ET (US) I pulled the pickup/inspecion plate to see what I had and found the fuel level at the top of the tank. (in the back anyway). I pulled a pint out of it and it supprisingly looked and smelled like gas. So I've treated it with Startron and octane boost and syphoned about 2/3 into jerry cans. Also ordered a racor filter. I think I can slowly mix it with fresh gas and eventually use it up. An old 2 stroke Merc 135 should run on anything. Any thoughts on that? thanks
Jefecinco	posted 03-04-2013 07:33 PM ET (US) I believe that is a good course of action. Enjoy!! Butch
Tom W Clark	posted 03-05-2013 11:41 AM ET (US) It will be fine. When I bought my Revenge 25 it had about half a tank of gas that had been sitting for a year and a half. I just ran it and my 1989 Mercury 150s (same as the 135) didn't mind a bit.
hauptjm	posted 03-06-2013 02:31 PM ET (US) quote: A new tank will probably cost close to $1000, PLUS several hundred to have it shipped to you, PLUS you then have to install it, PLUS you still have to get rid of the fuel you already have in your tank. Tom is just about right on pricing. I did this exact repair last year (replace tank) and spent $800.00 on a new tank from FMT and $150.00 to ship. By the time you do all of the work (or worse, pay someone else to do it), you're easily into it for $1,000.00 - $1,500.00.