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13' GLS performance
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posted 03-30-2000 11:08 AM ET (US)
I am interested in either the 13' GLS or sport. I just want a good solid, stable boat for fishing in the Savannah River, Lake Thurmond, and some inlets along the South Carolina coast. Usually it will be just three of us, but at times, there may be five. Is this boat big enough? Also, how is the performance fully loaded with people. I will also use it for my entire family of 5. All together we probably weigh 700 lbs. I will get the max engine in either case, which is a 30 on the sport and a 40 on the GLS. How much speed should I expect with these varying loads? I am not a speed freak, but I know my wife and kids will not enjoy it unless it goes somewhat fast.
posted 03-31-2000 02:01 PM ET (US)
I haven't driven one of the new 13 "Sports" but can't understand why it's rated at 30hp max, when the 13 Dauntless (almost identical hull) is rated at 50hp max. Hull is not the same as the Daunt however and has some peculiar "reverse chine" details... looks like it might catch or dig-in on hard conering?? Anyone out here to shed some light on this? Anyway, the 13 GLS (classic 13 hull) with 40hp should run at about 36mph with one person and about 30 loaded with 6 people... assumming that you have the correct prop, motor at proper mounting height and engine trimmed up appropriately. I have had maybe 20 classic 13's and that's about what you can expect... As to the Sport , the 13Dauntless that I owned would do only about 32 with a 50hp Evinrude (that's right 32 was all she would do even with a hurricane tailwind! running 5500rpm with a 15" sst prop) Will never figure that one out... anyone else with a 13 Daunt want to comment!? My guess is that with more weight and less power (30 max.) the Sport will get close to 30 mph with one aboard and maybe 20-25 fully loaded with 5 people!
Hey, I'm no expert but have an opinion on everything!! heh, heh.. Happy Whalin'... Clark
posted 03-31-2000 06:55 PM ET (US)
As to buying a new Whaler in general-don`t do it. Since `90 they were bought and moved and cheapened and the prices seem to go up and up. I have owned a few Whalers and the new ones(`90-`00) are not of the same pedigree. I test drove a `99 Montauk and the fit and finish and overall quality control were, might I say Baylineresq! Needless to say I walked out of the dealer mad as hell and on the other hand sad for Mr. Richard Fisher-founder of Boston Whaler. Mr. Fisher is no longer with us and I hope he can rest in peace, although i dought it. Please reply-JACK.
posted 04-02-2000 10:00 PM ET (US)
That is sad. Is it because they lost their designer to Edgewater? I have looked at their boats and they look pretty good.
posted 04-03-2000 08:32 AM ET (US)
If you want a new whaler I would not shy away from one. My family has owned them since the early 60's (3 13's, 2 17's, 1 21') and I currently own a 1996 15' Dauntless. I bought it barely used out of a garage in Ohio for about 10K. Not exactly expensive. I have had it out a half a dozen times this spring already and I have found it to be really fast, great in a sea for what it is, plenty of storage and it offers a nice, dry comfortable ride in a chop. As far as the "new" 13' Sport goes, test drive one. I am a bit hesitant about a 30hp motor being enough to ski and tube. I believe that the new 13' Sport is much heavier than my 1982 13' Sport (now the GLS) was. I had some trouble pulling (bigger) skiers with 30HP motor on that boat. But hey you never know. Good luck and buy soon I think its gonna be a nice sunny warm summer. -Dave
posted 04-07-2000 11:45 AM ET (US)
I recently(10/99) purchased a new 2000 13' Sport and am very satisfied with it. I don't want to get into a new vs. "classic" argument since I didn't own a whaler before this one. I'm just happy to be a whaler owner and will tell you what I have learned about my boat so far.
Clark is right, the odd chines on the new Sport seem to really make it corner tight. It doesn't slide off line much at all. I haven't really tried to corner it at higher speeds to see if this could be a problem. It's new and I'm still babying it.
As for speed, I don't have a guage and am not near a measured mile, so I don't know how fast it is. I'll be taking it to Galveston Bay in June and should be able to clock it there. So far, it's plenty fast enough for me!
I use it on bayous and Lake Pontchartrain in LA(on calm days). I have only had a total of three adults in the boat and still found it lively. It planes at about 3200rpm with the stock prop on the factory installed 30hp Mercury 2 stroke. It is an extremely stable boat for its size. I haven't tried to pull a skier but plan to do some tube pulling in June.
I have been reading posts on the old board since August and really appreciate all the expertise and advice I've seen from long time whaler owners. Think back to how you felt when you purcahsed your first whaler and you know what I'm feeling. I hope I'm welcome here even if my boat is new.
posted 04-09-2000 05:16 PM ET (US)
Welcome, Bob, and keep on Whalin'.. Clark... Spruce Creek Navy
posted 04-23-2000 08:42 PM ET (US)
I own a '93 GLS with a '95 30hp Merc 2-stroke. With a 13 pitch Mercury prop the boat planes at 3200 rpm at 16 to 18mph and will do 31 with one aboard. If you plan on having 4 adults aboard or you plan on doing any adult skiing I would recommend a 40hp. My motor will not pop me out of the water unless i put a 10 pitch prop on the motor(195 pounds). And when you're just crusing with the 10 pitch the motor is quickly into the rev limiter with a top speed of 26 mph. If I was to repower the boat today I would consider the 40hp 4stroke Suzuki that has fuel injection! Does anybody have any experience with a 4stroke on a 13GLS(or on any boat for that matter in the 40 hp range)? Is the added weight a problem?
posted 06-05-2000 06:10 PM ET (US)
I purchased a Sport 13 this spring. It rides MUCH more smoothly than the 1975 13' Super Sport I owned for a few years. The new boat (with a 25 h.p. 4-stroke) is not as fast in flat water as the older model (with a 40 h.p. 2-stroke), but when you factor in the usual Long Island Sound chop, the new boat gets you from here to there faster and more comfortably. The only time the older boat let me actually run faster was in a protected bay or on a lake. I find that the new boat is very easy on fuel, too. (Approximately 1.5 - 2.0 g.p.h.). All-in-all, a lot of small boat for a reasonable price!
posted 06-06-2000 12:05 PM ET (US)
I'm glad to hear from someone else who has purchased a new 13 Sport. I bought mine in the fall before the 4 stroke 25 was an option. I have been very satisfied with it.
I have found my boat labors a little to get on plane with three or four adults and gear aboard. Based on advice from others posters, I'm planning on installing a Doel fin this weekend to help it pop out. Last weekend, I was on an open lake in a light chop (baby white caps) and the boat stayed on plane above 4000 rpms and handled well. I think it's a terrific little boat for the money.
posted 06-09-2000 12:47 AM ET (US)
I have it from a good source that Whaler will be increasing the standard motor on the 2001 13' Sport to 40HP.
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