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dan firth posted 06-08-2000 11:21 PM ET (US)
I am looking at buying an 88 Outrage 22 with Whaler Drive and a 275 HP motor. Any comments good, bad, or indifferent on the Whaler Drive?
lhg posted 06-09-2000 01:43 AM ET (US)
Dan: I highly recommend the 22 Outrage with a Whaler drive, since it will give you the full transom on the boat, and an improved ride. It will not, however, give you improved speed, because it's somewhat unusual design (for an engine bracket) has a bottom surface that runs in the water, increasing drag. But it's a great, beautiful boat and I'd go for it on that basis, assuming it's in good condition. I can't say, however, that I like the single engine on this model, since Whaler Drive was specifically designed for twin 25" shaft, counter rotating, engines. The single engine was a Dealer cheap-out solution to keep the price down, since Whaler drive added about $3000 to the price of the boat. And even worse, at 275HP I am assuming the engine is one of those OMC V-8s, a real gas guzzling, trouble prone, dog, long since abandoned by OMC as an outboard solution that didn't work. Any new 225 will run rings around it! (Mercury also made a short lived, big block V-6 275HP which was only a slightly better engine) So if you buy the boat, consider that you'll probably be repowering with twin 135's or 150's, at a cost of about $17,000 sometime soon. Then, you'll have a super MACHINE!
hauptjm posted 06-13-2000 12:22 PM ET (US)
I couldn't agree more with lhg. The solid transom models are unbelievable. I too had to make a change from the original OMC Drive. I chose an Armstrong Bracket with a 150 Oceanrunner. My 18 handles like a 21. Good luck!
hauptjm posted 06-13-2000 12:46 PM ET (US)
I forgot to add to the last reply:
You loose the drag of the old sea drive when you go to a bracket. Make sure you use a yard that knows what they are doing with brackets. I know someone who had a lot of trouble going cheap.
wds posted 06-15-2000 09:20 PM ET (US)
I owned a 22' Outrage with a Whaler Drive and twin counter-rotating Johnson 175's. The boat rode as well as a 25'. I agree that a single engine is a shame on this boat, although the dual engines don't make it go any faster (just increase reliability and look better).
Highly recommended.
--Bill

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Author	Topic: Whaler Drive on Outrage 22
dan firth	posted 06-08-2000 11:21 PM ET (US) I am looking at buying an 88 Outrage 22 with Whaler Drive and a 275 HP motor. Any comments good, bad, or indifferent on the Whaler Drive?
lhg	posted 06-09-2000 01:43 AM ET (US) Dan: I highly recommend the 22 Outrage with a Whaler drive, since it will give you the full transom on the boat, and an improved ride. It will not, however, give you improved speed, because it's somewhat unusual design (for an engine bracket) has a bottom surface that runs in the water, increasing drag. But it's a great, beautiful boat and I'd go for it on that basis, assuming it's in good condition. I can't say, however, that I like the single engine on this model, since Whaler Drive was specifically designed for twin 25" shaft, counter rotating, engines. The single engine was a Dealer cheap-out solution to keep the price down, since Whaler drive added about $3000 to the price of the boat. And even worse, at 275HP I am assuming the engine is one of those OMC V-8s, a real gas guzzling, trouble prone, dog, long since abandoned by OMC as an outboard solution that didn't work. Any new 225 will run rings around it! (Mercury also made a short lived, big block V-6 275HP which was only a slightly better engine) So if you buy the boat, consider that you'll probably be repowering with twin 135's or 150's, at a cost of about $17,000 sometime soon. Then, you'll have a super MACHINE!
hauptjm	posted 06-13-2000 12:22 PM ET (US) I couldn't agree more with lhg. The solid transom models are unbelievable. I too had to make a change from the original OMC Drive. I chose an Armstrong Bracket with a 150 Oceanrunner. My 18 handles like a 21. Good luck!
hauptjm	posted 06-13-2000 12:46 PM ET (US) I forgot to add to the last reply: You loose the drag of the old sea drive when you go to a bracket. Make sure you use a yard that knows what they are doing with brackets. I know someone who had a lot of trouble going cheap.
wds	posted 06-15-2000 09:20 PM ET (US) I owned a 22' Outrage with a Whaler Drive and twin counter-rotating Johnson 175's. The boat rode as well as a 25'. I agree that a single engine is a shame on this boat, although the dual engines don't make it go any faster (just increase reliability and look better). Highly recommended. --Bill