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Ed Stone posted 10-01-2000 09:06 PM ET (US)   Profile for Ed Stone   Send Email to Ed Stone  
Are the Gps chartplotters worth the xtra $
over a standard gps?Hows about the combo
units gps/fishfinder?Previously I used
apelco which is now Rayethon.I never had
any problems.But I've never used a chart
plotter,Are the difficult to pick up on?
Thanks in advance,Ed Stone
DIVE 1 posted 10-01-2000 09:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for DIVE 1    
We have been using GPS Chartplotters on our boats for several years and they are well worth the extra expense. It is an exact replica of a paper chart for our area and it pinpoints our position on the chart at all times. It is especially helpful at night to avoid hitting buoys and shallow areas. If you are thinking about buying a chartplotter, do your research and try them out. We have chartplotters that use C-Map NT chips and others that use G-Map chips. The C-Map NT format is far superior because it shows more detail on the chart. The G-Map seems to be a little condensed on details.
We use seperate fishfinders because we want the largest viewable screen on the GPS and the fishfinder, we hate to give up viewing image size.
triblet posted 10-02-2000 11:36 AM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
The chartplotters are MUCH easier to use.
Just look at them and you see where you
are. The great side effect is you quickly
learn the names of places in a new area.

The Garmin 162 is under $400 (plus
cartography). Be sure to compare the Garmin
Waterways and Lights with their Topo sheets.
It's on their website. I found that in my
area, the Topo sheets had all the navaids
and more detail.

I'll second what DIVE 1 said about combo
chartplotter/fishfinder. When I'm looking
for a dive site, I want max detail on both,
which means two separate units.

Chuck Tribolet

bigz posted 10-02-2000 11:50 AM ET (US)     Profile for bigz    
Ed, we used a Lowrance Global Map 2000 chart reader coupled with their GPS receiver for the trip up from FL worked flawlessly -- programmed it prior to flying down to get the boat --- hooked it up and bingo bang excellent --- it has the map reader attachment for both Lowrance mini-C-Maps and the full standard C-Maps --- very very easy to use --- we however just used the built in map supplied with the unit and it was fine --- chuckle we also carried Maptech Chart sets ---

As Dive 1 pointed out the new C-map NT sets is the way to go for the future for C-map users --- but they aren't compatible with some older C-map readers which us the Standard C-Map ---

Lowrance is introducing a new unit called the GM 3000 it will use Navionics software and interface with your computer so you can create custom maps --- when this is out in a few months might be able to get some nice deals on the 2000 model --- C-map will continue from what I heard support the Standard C-Map for at least a few more years ---

We decided against purchasing the add on sonar for the Lowrance instead we opted for the Interphase dual frequency Advantage model which also has electronic speed sensing --- works great --- easy to use and if you decided to stay with just a GPS receiver with out a plotter this unit will interface with it so your course, position etc., can be displayed on the same screen as your sonar/fish readings or a separate screen your choice.

A couple of weeks ago I was able to get a heck of a deal on the Lowrance DGPS receiver which as you know works in conjunction with GPS giving you even greater accuracy --- since we didn't have it before when Clinton did the so called deregulation the GPS signals to be unscrambled we figured the GPS alone would be greatly enhanced --- well let me tell you right now that DGPS receiver brings us with in a few yards might even say feet of our position, when just using the GPS 10-20 yards of it --- couldn't believe the difference ---


Backlash posted 10-02-2000 03:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for Backlash  Send Email to Backlash     

I agree with all the previous comments. I have the Lowrance GlobalMap 1000 as well as the LMS 350A sonar/gps. They are excellent. If you get one you'll never go back to the regular gps display.


dfmcintyre posted 10-02-2000 07:34 PM ET (US)     Profile for dfmcintyre  Send Email to dfmcintyre     
Ed -

I went with a Garmin 135 gps, chartmap, sounder combo. I bought it for:

size - my space for a gps unit was limited.
familiarity - I use the Garmin 195 and 295 for flying, and the keystrokes are similar.
mount options - The unit works real well for a easy flush, panal mount. Just cut a hole in the dash that allowed it to fit snug, used a little 3M and it fits perfect.

Bought the optional paddle/temp sounder. Works great.

If I had more room, I'd opt for the larger unit though.

Bought the North Channel and the lower Lake Huron carts. Very accurate.

Best - Don

Ed Stone posted 10-02-2000 08:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ed Stone  Send Email to Ed Stone     
Thanks for all the info.
Most recently I've used garmin gps and
Apelco FF,VHF.I'll have to do a little
research and now I have plenty of
options to think about.
Thanks Again.
bschmitt posted 10-03-2000 11:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for bschmitt  Send Email to bschmitt     
I have the Garmin 185 on my Montauk and I like it. The only thing I didn't like was that the detailled chart for my hunting grounds ( Long Island) did cost approx half of what the 185 was. Guess they have to make their money somehow. I compared screens and liked the brightness/contrast of the Garmin185 best. Better would be a color model. but that's $$$$
triblet posted 10-04-2000 10:08 AM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
Garmin reduced the prices on their G-charts
last year. Most are now $99.

And with the new downloadable units, $80
(Waterways and Lights) or $130 (Topo) gets
the whole country on CD.

A color LCD would likely not be as readable
in the sunshine.

The 185 is now an obsolescent model. The
162 has half again as many pixels (though
the screen isn't quite as big). I wouldn't
be surprised to see Garmin bring out a
big-screen 162.

Chuck Tribolet

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