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rhemrah posted 11-17-2000 04:29 PM ET (US)   Profile for rhemrah   Send Email to rhemrah  
Hey Guys I need your advice. I am looking at putting a 2000 4 HP Yamaha 4 stroke kicker motor on my 1987 montauk. I am looking at using it to fish small lakes that have restrictions on size of motors and also use it in emergency situations. Any idea how this little will perform. I am getting a good deal on it. Thanks
compounder posted 11-17-2000 07:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for compounder  Send Email to compounder     
I've carried a 4hp Evinrude on an auxillary bracket on my Montauk since 1981. Luckily, I've never actually needed it. I start it up two or three times a year and motor down the river for a ways just to keep her limbered up. I like the light weight of the 4---mines about 35#---but it isn't a real powerhouse on the Whaler. Running it about 3/4 throttle we make pretty good headway on a calm day, but against the tide and wind you don't get anywhere very quickly. I'm sure its better than paddling, but not much. I was looking at a 60# 6hp Yamaha (2000) the other day that I might pick up as a replacement. Just trying to decide if 60# hanging off the transom might me too much. I would definitely try to find a kicker with remote fuel capability and make sure your fuel line will reach to it if disconnected from the main engine. Actually not a bad idea to have and extra portable tank along. Most outboard failure to run situations I have been associated with were fuel related.
rhemrah posted 11-19-2000 05:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for rhemrah  Send Email to rhemrah     
Thanks for the info. I am also concerned about the extra weight on the transon that is why I am looking at the 4--HP 4--stroke;49#. The main feature I like about this motor is the integral tank, although it is only a 1 gal. tank. The write up from Yamaha states 67 mpg. I am just concerned about the performance.
alvispollard posted 11-20-2000 09:40 PM ET (US)     Profile for alvispollard  Send Email to alvispollard     
I also need some advice on the purchase of a 4 hp or 5 hp kicker for slow trolling in ocean. Has someone used a kicker for this? Which size is best? How large is the integral tank? How long will it run at 1 mph or less? What brand has the largest integral tank? 2 stroke or 4 stroke? Cost? Dealer or catalog? All help appreciated.
alvispollard posted 11-20-2000 09:42 PM ET (US)     Profile for alvispollard  Send Email to alvispollard     
Kicker is for montauk.
Clark Roberts posted 11-21-2000 09:34 AM ET (US)     Profile for Clark Roberts  Send Email to Clark Roberts     
Here are some features to look for in a kicker: light weight, full gear shift (Forward , neutral, reverse), 360 degree steering (makes tight manouvering possible but negates use of remote fuel tank... hose wont allow 360).. , throttle friction adjustment (tighten up to hold speed), low pitch prop options, etc.... two stroke/four stroke.... ??? no oil mix with four stroke.. an advantage unless prime motor is a manual mix type... from my experience a 4-5 hp 2 stroke aux. will run over an hour on a half gal of fuel...most brands 4-5hp two strokes are made by Tohatsu and are virtually identical... Dont know how soothe the single cyl 4 strokers are but the single cyl 2 strokers are not very smoothe... the old 4hp two cyl OMC's are very smoothe by comparison...I'm rambling so will shut up..... Clark... "an opinion for every occasion"
rhemrah posted 11-22-2000 06:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for rhemrah  Send Email to rhemrah     
hey guys,
What would you recommend as for as shaft length for a kicker motor on a Montauk. I know a guy that has a 1997 15hp 2 stroke Evinrude long shaft thet he is wanting to sell for 1,200.00. Sounds Like a good deal but would the shaft length be a problem.
h3oboy posted 08-26-2005 02:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for h3oboy  Send Email to h3oboy     
The 67 mpg was during a world record run in a 70lbs kevlar custom trimaran built for the intent of breaking the record. not to say they are not great on fuel. I am looking at the same motor for my 17. I had a 3.3 evenrude before that worked fine for a get home motor.
andygere posted 08-27-2005 12:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
Get a 20" shaft (longshaft) and clamp it directly to the transom. My former Montauk had a 15 hp 2-stroke Johnson on it and the weight (79#) was no problem. It was more power than needed for a kicker, but it worked just fine. I'd go with a 6-8 hp for that boat.

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