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FISHNFF posted 03-23-2001 02:55 PM ET (US)
Just curious. What is the most HP you have seen on a Whaler, of each respective size? Thinking back over my travels I have seen:
13'Sport with a 60 Evinrude (2 cylinder), heard of a 70 Evinrude out there.
15'SuperSport with an in-line Merc 90 in San Diego.
16/17' Nausset with a Merc BlackMax 175(2.0 liter block).
18' Outrage with a Yamaha 200 (Bought used. To this day my friend has not opened it up). Twin 115 Mercs on this site.
22 Outrage with WhalerDrive, twin Yamaha 200.
hardensheetmetal posted 03-23-2001 06:01 PM ET (US)
Couple of months ago I was talking to a guy in Jersey about his 18' Outrage with an Evinrude 235. Talk about a rocket!
Dan
Alaska posted 03-23-2001 07:21 PM ET (US)
Back in the early 80's the harbor masters dept in Seward Alaska (just south of Anchorage) was running twin 200's on their 21 outrages. Most likely for towing I suppose.
Lil Whaler Lover posted 03-23-2001 10:35 PM ET (US)
Early 60's in Mystic Connecticut, I saw a Sport 13 with a custom mahogany front deck, like on a Penn Yan Swift, and hanging on the stern a dock-buster 6 cylinder Mercury. I am quite sure that it was a 70 hp. That was a "Whaler Moment" for me.
kingfish posted 03-23-2001 10:58 PM ET (US)
Our very own LHG (Lary Goltz) has an Outrage 18 with twin 115's - jimh's article on brackets in reference section has some photos of the motor installaion.
John
Peter posted 03-24-2001 02:30 PM ET (US)
I've seen a 13 with an Evinrude 70.
I've seen a 15 with an Evinrude 115.
dfmcintyre posted 03-24-2001 08:17 PM ET (US)
The family had a Nauset in '71 that had a Merc 125 inline 6.
Is squirrely a verb?
kingfish posted 03-24-2001 11:58 PM ET (US)
I think that would be an adverb, but it works...
OutrageMan posted 03-25-2001 12:59 AM ET (US)
Shees FISHNFF...
A 22 Outrage WD with 2 Yam 200's???!!! I have that boat, and I cant imagine throwing a couple of duces on it! I have a Yamaha 250 and it runs a bit fast.
I just couldn't imagine the incredible chine walk or porposing with that kind of power.
As far as over poer goes I have a relative that put a Johnson 235 on a 1977 19' Outrage. He also carpeted the deck. Probable to provide traction for when he "hit it."
(hello uncle R) :)
reeltime2 posted 03-26-2001 08:54 AM ET (US)
Ive seen a 13 80's Sport W/ 70 merc.
& a 17 w/ 135 maraner Almost bought this one.
Rick
hauptjm posted 03-26-2001 09:54 AM ET (US)
Watch it guys, the insurance Police are listening!!!!!
tbirdsey posted 03-26-2001 08:33 PM ET (US)
Perhaps lhg will reveal what he was running on his 17 when he introduced me to whalers back in the early 70's. If my memory is right, he would more than qualify for this list. Let's just say I can remember passing cars on interstate 787 which parallels the Hudson just north of Albany - and I don't mean we were passing them while towing the whaler behind his Grand Prix - we were on the water!!
Maerd posted 03-27-2001 08:19 PM ET (US)
I bought a new Montauk in 1989 and wanted to have more than 100hp. I talked to a lawyer, my insurance man and the Coast Guard. I bought a 100 Johnson. One big court case can wipe you out.
whalernut posted 03-27-2001 09:02 PM ET (US)
Maerd, the 1989 Montauk`s are beutiful boats, Desert Tan, Barbour Rubrail-nice! And if you have the Teak Trim even nicer. I wish I had one of those from the eighties, the Golden Era of Whaler. Regards-You`re Buddy-Jack Graner.
Bear posted 03-28-2001 04:27 PM ET (US)
Question....I've heard (perhaps inaccurately) that if you put an outboard more than what's rated for the boat, then you can run into insurance, liability problems. Either you can't get insurance, or if your in an accident, then your automatically at fault....basically bad news all the way around. Fact, fiction, or somewhere in between??
JimU posted 03-28-2001 05:50 PM ET (US)
It could also be an adjective.
lhg posted 03-28-2001 10:16 PM ET (US)
I've owned 4 Whalers, all powered over the rating.
1. 1958 13 Sport, with 1979 Merc in-line 4 50HP.(powerhead rated)
(This boat would do about 45, with a 17" 2 blade bronze prop (remember those?) and it got a little squirrely and chine walked at that speed, but handled it).
2. 1971 Nauset, with 1973 Merc in-line 6 150HP.(powerhead rated) This boat would do about 55 with a 21" prop. Boat handled fairly well at this speed, but this has got to be it's max. You REALLY had to pay attention to water conditions!
3. 18 Outrage, shown on this site, with the twin Merc 115's. Does about 60, but because of the non-counter rotating engines, feels a little squirrley at 60, with too much prop torque on the transom. Stern will jump sideways about a foot if you pull the power too fast. CR engines would be much better.
I think twin 90's would be about perfect for this hull if you want to go 50. Twin 75's will not push it to it's comfortable maximum.
4. 25 Outrage, with bracketed CR Merc 200's. This boat handles the 60mph speed like a champion, solid as a rock, with no chine walk. The higher running engines that the bracket allows provides the necessary increased stability at high speed. CR also mandatory here. Boat is rated for 300HP, since it does not have the Whaler Drive unit. I would also be happy with a pair of 150's on it, about 50mph.
lhg posted 03-28-2001 10:19 PM ET (US)
Typo: The engine on the 13 Sport was a 1970, not 1979.
andygere posted 03-29-2001 12:51 PM ET (US)
I used to borrow an early '70s 13 with a manual start Merc 50, and SS prop. It was a rocket!
Whaler27 posted 04-05-2001 05:09 PM ET (US)
I have a 1985 Outrage 18' with a tricked out Yamaha Excel 235. (insane speed)
My cousin now owns my old Outrage cuddy 25 with twin Yamaha CR225's, ported intakes, boysen reeds, bigger jets, it is a flyer.
Also currently own a Whaler27 cuddy with twin Yamaha CR225's, more realistic speeds.
Tom W Clark posted 04-27-2001 10:44 AM ET (US)
hmmmm: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1139216493
OutrageMan posted 04-27-2001 12:27 PM ET (US)
OH MY! I would be scared to ride in that '69...
Tsuriki BW posted 04-27-2001 04:08 PM ET (US)
Re the '69, guy says the engine runs goo, but I don't see a prop on it. Eyes bad?
Tsuriki
dhormann posted 05-04-2001 11:23 PM ET (US)
I just got my 1970 13' Sport out of the shop with a 40 HP Classic (50 HP Powerhead rated). Hope to get it in the water tomorrow, or Sunday to see what she'll do. It's a rope start.
John OSr posted 06-06-2008 08:46 PM ET (US)

My 1988 20' Outrage with 250hp 1994 rebuilt Yamaha salt water on bracket. See photo
http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll184/JohnOSr/boat52608018-1.jpg
Tohsgib posted 06-07-2008 12:50 AM ET (US)
That aint crap! 20' boat with 50hp overrated. I have seen a 13' with a 70(40hp over) and been on a 15' with a 115(45 over) and been on a 17 Montauk with a 200 Yamaha(double over or 100hp)....250...c'mon! Just poking fun but serious about what I have seen/driven.
TransAm posted 06-07-2008 09:48 AM ET (US)
How bout the Temptation w/ twin 300 Mercury XS racing outboards. 150 over I believe.
deepwater posted 06-08-2008 10:28 AM ET (US)
man this is an old post ,,,but a good one
ptitterington posted 06-08-2008 02:19 PM ET (US)
Not Boston whaler stuff,
But about 6yrs ago I purchased what was discribed as a 16ft Piranha and due to the way the boats were packed together I purchased for £130 knowing I had access to a 2 stroke Yamaha 75.
Well it turned out to be a 13ft and I put the motor on anyway. It was scary as hell and I could only do full throttle after a load of beer. Still it got me back into boats.
j_h_nimrod posted 06-10-2008 12:25 AM ET (US)
I have been in a early 70's or late 60's 13' that currently has a 60hp 4-stroke Yamaha; very nice cruiser.
Lots of 17' boats up here with 140 Suzys both 4 and 2 stroke. 90s on 15' hulls are the norm; great medicine for high seas and heavy loads.
The biggest I have seen is a 17 Montauk with a 200 Mercury. A couple of 175s on scattered around too.
contender posted 06-10-2008 11:02 AM ET (US)
Seen a old 17 in the keys with a 175 Johnson a long time ago, also a 17 with a 200 Johnson in the Bahamas, I run a 140 on my 17...be safe
Tohsgib posted 06-10-2008 03:34 PM ET (US)
9' Squall..TWIN 4.5 OMC's. Still under restoration but what a bute.

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Author	Topic: Maxed Out Whalers
FISHNFF	posted 03-23-2001 02:55 PM ET (US) Just curious. What is the most HP you have seen on a Whaler, of each respective size? Thinking back over my travels I have seen: 13'Sport with a 60 Evinrude (2 cylinder), heard of a 70 Evinrude out there. 15'SuperSport with an in-line Merc 90 in San Diego. 16/17' Nausset with a Merc BlackMax 175(2.0 liter block). 18' Outrage with a Yamaha 200 (Bought used. To this day my friend has not opened it up). Twin 115 Mercs on this site. 22 Outrage with WhalerDrive, twin Yamaha 200.
hardensheetmetal	posted 03-23-2001 06:01 PM ET (US) Couple of months ago I was talking to a guy in Jersey about his 18' Outrage with an Evinrude 235. Talk about a rocket! Dan
Alaska	posted 03-23-2001 07:21 PM ET (US) Back in the early 80's the harbor masters dept in Seward Alaska (just south of Anchorage) was running twin 200's on their 21 outrages. Most likely for towing I suppose.
Lil Whaler Lover	posted 03-23-2001 10:35 PM ET (US) Early 60's in Mystic Connecticut, I saw a Sport 13 with a custom mahogany front deck, like on a Penn Yan Swift, and hanging on the stern a dock-buster 6 cylinder Mercury. I am quite sure that it was a 70 hp. That was a "Whaler Moment" for me.
kingfish	posted 03-23-2001 10:58 PM ET (US) Our very own LHG (Lary Goltz) has an Outrage 18 with twin 115's - jimh's article on brackets in reference section has some photos of the motor installaion. John
Peter	posted 03-24-2001 02:30 PM ET (US) I've seen a 13 with an Evinrude 70. I've seen a 15 with an Evinrude 115.
dfmcintyre	posted 03-24-2001 08:17 PM ET (US) The family had a Nauset in '71 that had a Merc 125 inline 6. Is squirrely a verb?
kingfish	posted 03-24-2001 11:58 PM ET (US) I think that would be an adverb, but it works...
OutrageMan	posted 03-25-2001 12:59 AM ET (US) Shees FISHNFF... A 22 Outrage WD with 2 Yam 200's???!!! I have that boat, and I cant imagine throwing a couple of duces on it! I have a Yamaha 250 and it runs a bit fast. I just couldn't imagine the incredible chine walk or porposing with that kind of power. As far as over poer goes I have a relative that put a Johnson 235 on a 1977 19' Outrage. He also carpeted the deck. Probable to provide traction for when he "hit it." (hello uncle R) :)
reeltime2	posted 03-26-2001 08:54 AM ET (US) Ive seen a 13 80's Sport W/ 70 merc. & a 17 w/ 135 maraner Almost bought this one. Rick
hauptjm	posted 03-26-2001 09:54 AM ET (US) Watch it guys, the insurance Police are listening!!!!!
tbirdsey	posted 03-26-2001 08:33 PM ET (US) Perhaps lhg will reveal what he was running on his 17 when he introduced me to whalers back in the early 70's. If my memory is right, he would more than qualify for this list. Let's just say I can remember passing cars on interstate 787 which parallels the Hudson just north of Albany - and I don't mean we were passing them while towing the whaler behind his Grand Prix - we were on the water!!
Maerd	posted 03-27-2001 08:19 PM ET (US) I bought a new Montauk in 1989 and wanted to have more than 100hp. I talked to a lawyer, my insurance man and the Coast Guard. I bought a 100 Johnson. One big court case can wipe you out.
whalernut	posted 03-27-2001 09:02 PM ET (US) Maerd, the 1989 Montauk`s are beutiful boats, Desert Tan, Barbour Rubrail-nice! And if you have the Teak Trim even nicer. I wish I had one of those from the eighties, the Golden Era of Whaler. Regards-You`re Buddy-Jack Graner.
Bear	posted 03-28-2001 04:27 PM ET (US) Question....I've heard (perhaps inaccurately) that if you put an outboard more than what's rated for the boat, then you can run into insurance, liability problems. Either you can't get insurance, or if your in an accident, then your automatically at fault....basically bad news all the way around. Fact, fiction, or somewhere in between??
JimU	posted 03-28-2001 05:50 PM ET (US) It could also be an adjective.
lhg	posted 03-28-2001 10:16 PM ET (US) I've owned 4 Whalers, all powered over the rating. 1. 1958 13 Sport, with 1979 Merc in-line 4 50HP.(powerhead rated) (This boat would do about 45, with a 17" 2 blade bronze prop (remember those?) and it got a little squirrely and chine walked at that speed, but handled it). 2. 1971 Nauset, with 1973 Merc in-line 6 150HP.(powerhead rated) This boat would do about 55 with a 21" prop. Boat handled fairly well at this speed, but this has got to be it's max. You REALLY had to pay attention to water conditions! 3. 18 Outrage, shown on this site, with the twin Merc 115's. Does about 60, but because of the non-counter rotating engines, feels a little squirrley at 60, with too much prop torque on the transom. Stern will jump sideways about a foot if you pull the power too fast. CR engines would be much better. I think twin 90's would be about perfect for this hull if you want to go 50. Twin 75's will not push it to it's comfortable maximum. 4. 25 Outrage, with bracketed CR Merc 200's. This boat handles the 60mph speed like a champion, solid as a rock, with no chine walk. The higher running engines that the bracket allows provides the necessary increased stability at high speed. CR also mandatory here. Boat is rated for 300HP, since it does not have the Whaler Drive unit. I would also be happy with a pair of 150's on it, about 50mph.
lhg	posted 03-28-2001 10:19 PM ET (US) Typo: The engine on the 13 Sport was a 1970, not 1979.
andygere	posted 03-29-2001 12:51 PM ET (US) I used to borrow an early '70s 13 with a manual start Merc 50, and SS prop. It was a rocket!
Whaler27	posted 04-05-2001 05:09 PM ET (US) I have a 1985 Outrage 18' with a tricked out Yamaha Excel 235. (insane speed) My cousin now owns my old Outrage cuddy 25 with twin Yamaha CR225's, ported intakes, boysen reeds, bigger jets, it is a flyer. Also currently own a Whaler27 cuddy with twin Yamaha CR225's, more realistic speeds.
Tom W Clark	posted 04-27-2001 10:44 AM ET (US) hmmmm: http://cgi.ebay.com/aw-cgi/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=1139216493
OutrageMan	posted 04-27-2001 12:27 PM ET (US) OH MY! I would be scared to ride in that '69...
Tsuriki BW	posted 04-27-2001 04:08 PM ET (US) Re the '69, guy says the engine runs goo, but I don't see a prop on it. Eyes bad? Tsuriki
dhormann	posted 05-04-2001 11:23 PM ET (US) I just got my 1970 13' Sport out of the shop with a 40 HP Classic (50 HP Powerhead rated). Hope to get it in the water tomorrow, or Sunday to see what she'll do. It's a rope start.
John OSr	posted 06-06-2008 08:46 PM ET (US) My 1988 20' Outrage with 250hp 1994 rebuilt Yamaha salt water on bracket. See photo http://i288.photobucket.com/albums/ll184/JohnOSr/boat52608018-1.jpg
Tohsgib	posted 06-07-2008 12:50 AM ET (US) That aint crap! 20' boat with 50hp overrated. I have seen a 13' with a 70(40hp over) and been on a 15' with a 115(45 over) and been on a 17 Montauk with a 200 Yamaha(double over or 100hp)....250...c'mon! Just poking fun but serious about what I have seen/driven.
TransAm	posted 06-07-2008 09:48 AM ET (US) How bout the Temptation w/ twin 300 Mercury XS racing outboards. 150 over I believe.
deepwater	posted 06-08-2008 10:28 AM ET (US) man this is an old post ,,,but a good one
ptitterington	posted 06-08-2008 02:19 PM ET (US) Not Boston whaler stuff, But about 6yrs ago I purchased what was discribed as a 16ft Piranha and due to the way the boats were packed together I purchased for £130 knowing I had access to a 2 stroke Yamaha 75. Well it turned out to be a 13ft and I put the motor on anyway. It was scary as hell and I could only do full throttle after a load of beer. Still it got me back into boats.
j_h_nimrod	posted 06-10-2008 12:25 AM ET (US) I have been in a early 70's or late 60's 13' that currently has a 60hp 4-stroke Yamaha; very nice cruiser. Lots of 17' boats up here with 140 Suzys both 4 and 2 stroke. 90s on 15' hulls are the norm; great medicine for high seas and heavy loads. The biggest I have seen is a 17 Montauk with a 200 Mercury. A couple of 175s on scattered around too.
contender	posted 06-10-2008 11:02 AM ET (US) Seen a old 17 in the keys with a 175 Johnson a long time ago, also a 17 with a 200 Johnson in the Bahamas, I run a 140 on my 17...be safe
Tohsgib	posted 06-10-2008 03:34 PM ET (US) 9' Squall..TWIN 4.5 OMC's. Still under restoration but what a bute.