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SuburbanBoy posted 07-17-2001 12:21 PM ET (US)   Profile for SuburbanBoy   Send Email to SuburbanBoy  
With all of the OMC and Mercury catastrophic failures and complete engine swaps documented in active threads in our board, I began to wonder if other major engine suppliers are suffering from similar documented problems. Not hearsay, but recall in-hand issues. Quite frankly I am overwhelemed with the poor quality that has escaped from Mercury and OMC. Are Yamaha, Honda, Tohatsu (Nissan) and Suzuki that much better? It seems as if our two domestic suppliers are trying to throw away the business. It is quite unbelieveable! I remember seeing motors running continously in Waukegan Harbor for days on end. Did OMC just ignore their own data, or did they give up testing all together? What a mess. And how about Lake X and the constant development that Merc exploits in their marketing? Have they lost leave of their senses? Rule #1 has always been that "Customers are number 1", and it seems that somewhere along the way Merc and OMC forgot this rule. BTW, Rule #2 is see Rule #1.


reelescape1 posted 07-17-2001 12:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for reelescape1  Send Email to reelescape1     
I think this link was posted here before (?). It may be useful....

B Bear posted 07-17-2001 11:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for B Bear  Send Email to B Bear     
Well as far as Honda goes, no recalls present or past. Yamaha has one on their 115 - 250 HP outboards fuel systems. Nissan has one for a fuel tank leak for their 5 HP. Suzuki has one on their DF60, DF70 outboards with the shift linkage, and the same problem with their V4, V6 and some V6 1990.
As far as OMC and Mercury more than I would like to list.
lhg posted 07-17-2001 11:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
Prior to the OMC collapse, the American companies had 80% of the world outboard market. Mercury was prevented from buying OMC because of this. Yamaha has another 15%, the others split up the remaining 5%. Mercury also has close to 90% share of the 4 stroke I/O market.

Now I understand that Mercury and Yamaha have eaten up most of OMC's previous 30 percent share. A lot of OMC's previous dealers have found it more palatable to take on Yamaha rather than hated arch enemy Mercury! Both company's plants are working flat out to meet demand, and probably, to fix problems. Suzuki is also pushing real hard to gain market share. It's going to be interesting who comes out on top after all these nightmares. Maybe it will be Honda. But first they have to sail past Yamaha, which will not be an easy task. Who knows, they could end up owning Boston Whaler too.

Peter posted 07-18-2001 07:34 AM ET (US)     Profile for Peter  Send Email to Peter     
The Yamaha recall concerns a fuel leak in its optional fuel management system which is basically a fuel flow meter and corresponding gauge installed on the boat to allow readout of gph and mpg. This optional piece of equipment has nothing to do with the mechanical functioning of the outboards.
Whaletosh posted 07-18-2001 10:20 AM ET (US)     Profile for Whaletosh    
And some of the recalls for Mercs wre for fuel leaks, remote controls, etc. that didn't have anything to do with the operation of the motor per se.
SuburbanBoy posted 07-18-2001 07:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for SuburbanBoy  Send Email to SuburbanBoy     
I was unable to find any reference to the latest Mercury 60hp recall. I believe that there are at least two categories of recall. Official as noted on the USCG website, and particular to an engine company. The Mercury self-recall is for durability, and not safety. I am unaware of any other secret warranty recalls, but I am sure they are out there.


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