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EasyE posted 10-22-2001 01:05 AM ET (US)
This post branched from the "11'4" whaler" forum.
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Speedywhaler,
The trim tabs I used where from "The Shad Connection" they can also be used as a step to get in the boat cause there fixed in the position that you lock it. Get the smaller ones. I mounted them on the outer edges of the transom but not on the vee, if you look at the back of your boat youll see what i mean. Also I clamped my engine a vertical inch off the transom to be more stable and it helped with the speed too...less gearcase drag.
The prop came from "Powertech", I think they have a 3blade and 4blade props for your engine(go with the 3blade). "A1discountprops" sells powertech props among alot of others. I would say a 15pitch is good for your boat. I should warn you your boat will probably be doing 40mph or more with the SS prop so I would suggest getting the trim tabs first.
Parts Address's:
Trim Tabs: http://www.theshadconnection.com/cgi-bin/page.cgi?page=657
SS Prop: http://www.a1discountprop.com/
Outboard Parts: http://www.outboardparts.com
WantaWhale,
I dount no much on the specs of the 9' tender. Perhaps jimh or someone else who has the catalog would no. I think the max hp is like 5hp. Oh i remember seeing the 9' specs in the General section of the forum. If you look back the last 2 years you should see it under "9' specs" i believe.-EasyE-
Highwater posted 10-22-2001 08:39 AM ET (US)
From the 11'4" thread and from email, this is what I undertand of this discussion: If you put a 25 hp engine on a 165-pound boat that is rated for less than half that amount, and you get a SST prop and trim tabs, you can make the 9' Whaler go 40 mph. This seems dangerous to one of the owners—but fun. The other owner says that using a 15 hp engine on the 9' , you can "spin out" on turns, but it does not feel like the boat is about to flip.
If Mercury came out with a lightweight 40 hp engine, would you want to see what the 9' Whaler would do with it bolted an inch above the transom?
Your vessel is not designed for for this application. I think you'd be safer if you took up sky diving or bungie jumping. Will you feel any responsibility toward the next owner when you sell your boat?
Please don't think that I am being hostile—I am just concerned. I know of two young men that died when their over-powered boats flipped....
SpeedyWhaler posted 10-22-2001 09:32 AM ET (US)
I would never sell the boat and motor together, no i would never try and put more than a 25 HP, It takes alot of HP to get such a small boat on plain and i want to be able to sit then the very back and pop right up on plane and go fast when possible. The 25 can to the for me and the 15 could'nt.It seems insaine putting 25hp on a boat rated for 5hp but when you have steering wheel and throttle controls and you can center the weight perfectly it acts alot different, more like a boat then a dingy. I DONT HAVE TO GO WOT ALL THE TIME.
LOA, 9' Beem 4'6" Draft 5" Weight 165LB MAX weight 405 LB Swamped cap 600LB Persons cap 3 Transome hight 15"
I can stand on the gunwale with the (25hp) and bounce and water doesnt come over the side, this is a VERY heavy and studry 9 foot long boat.
Obvisouly, you can lean on these and be fine
Bigshot posted 10-22-2001 11:37 AM ET (US)
too bad you are not in FL, I would love to go for a ride!
ledfoot posted 10-22-2001 11:58 AM ET (US)
Speedywhaler,
Don't sweat the old guys; your 9 footer sounds like a total blast!! Where I grew up in Sarasota, FL, there was an 8' boat called a "Flivver" or something. They looked like a shallow bathtub, ran 20-35 hp motors, and they could turn on a dime. This was before jet boats, so you had to get your jollies somehow. Keep it up, I bet its a great sight seeing your boat flyin' along. You should make a video or something.
ps we used to launch my 13' 4-6 feet in the air off the "Flying Fish" charterboat wake a few times a week back in the day...
Dick posted 10-22-2001 12:46 PM ET (US)
Been there and done that.
Have fun but be safe. Used to jump tug boat wakes on the river with a home made 8 footer running a 25 Merc. Those were the good old days.
Bigshot posted 10-22-2001 01:57 PM ET (US)
I've jumped about everything in a 13' when I was a kid(paying for it now). Lived on the Barnegat Inlet jumping 6' breakers. I have NEVER seen a wake until I was on the Delaware in my 15' and hit a tugboat wake. Holy cow are they big.
EasyE posted 10-22-2001 05:14 PM ET (US)
When I had my 9' whaler that was my one of the best times i had on water.I had 2 custom low back bucket seats in the back with ridiculous size butt cushions for wave jumping. It was like a the Boston Whaler 9' jetski that was never made. I could of turn the boat in about a 3' radius. You see me along the bay going west then you would see a big wall off spray and the next thing you know im going east at almost the same speed. My friend had a 12' carolina skiff with a 25hp Johnson which also did about 29-30mph. He and I would go to local surf break and jump the 3-6foot swells for hours.When we started jumping the 6-7 footers the surfers there would all stop surfing just to watch us. Anyone doing anything would stop to stare. We caught AIR! I dount mean 3feet of air i mean 8-12feet of air. There nothing like the rush of approching a wave that is completly blocking the horizon.Your heart starts pumpin and then you hit the wave and you here your prop whinning you yank the safty lanyard engine stalls you slouch down in your seat while hold the padded handle with one hand and the tiller handle with next then you pray while lookin off the side off the boat your heart stops then you land transom first and you think "its a good thing my butt cushion is 9inched thick" then you feel all your blood starting come back and in the background you here surfers cheering. Wow, I was there for a minute.
When im 84years old, sick and stuck in my bed(if i make it that old). Memories like these are all im going to have. Imagine an old sick man and the only memories he has is working where ever he worked for most of his life and he thinks,"my life was a waste ill do anything to live it over again". Well im not going to be that old man-EasyE-
Whalerdan posted 10-23-2001 03:27 AM ET (US)
Put me down for a ride in that thing too, but I'm driven! My dad (he's 67 years old) has a genoa canoe with a 25hp, it's like rideing a motorcycle on the water.
Whalerdan posted 10-23-2001 03:34 AM ET (US)
Bigshot - I know what you're talking about with those tug boat wakes. I hit one of those in Charleston Harbor. The closest thing I can compair it to was like Mountain Biking going down a deep revine (gully) and back up the other side. Scared the hell out me. Something to talk about ;) when I get old.
goldstem posted 10-23-2001 08:25 AM ET (US)
How about the wake from the ferry going
from Falmouth harbour to Martha's Vinyard.
Jumping it was nuts.
Surfing it with a 13 was a blast. Just had to be carfull not to flip sideways :-)
SpeedyWhaler posted 10-23-2001 08:38 AM ET (US)
Not to change the great subject of wave jumping :) but, what are you guys thoughts on towing my 9' with the motor on it behind a sail boat down the ICW (Inter Coastal Waterway) how dangerous could that be?
SpeedyWhaler posted 10-23-2001 08:49 AM ET (US)
Oh and by the way, email me (syncpeth@yahoo.com) for a pic of my 9'.
blackdog posted 10-23-2001 09:26 AM ET (US)
Hmmmm sounds like some interest out there for a wave runner by B/W!!
Had my first experience with a tugboat last year on the Delaware. J
WantaWhale posted 10-23-2001 02:18 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the pics, SpeedyWhaler. Man that thing looks neat! Makes the 11 look like a
monster. How can you sit and drive that thing? looks like it would be great fun around jet skiers.
..Fletch
Bigshot posted 10-23-2001 03:04 PM ET (US)
EasyE....Brings back memories. If I was older(32) I would swear you were my kid. Used to surf the atlantic(LBI NJ) in my 13' and 15'. Man what a rush. Drop in....cruise the whitewash then look for an out before you got broadsided or ran into the jetty. Got busted by my Dad when I was like 14. Was pissed but impressed with my driving skills. Who knew he would be putting up an attic fan on the roof?
Flipper posted 10-24-2001 10:35 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the pic of the 9';
I can't believe how level she sits
in the water! Was it low tide?
Have fun with 'er.
EasyE posted 10-25-2001 05:48 PM ET (US)
I agree she sits quite well like with a 15hp. Mine mine was a 2 seater with custom bucket seats on the back. I found some other pics of 9' whaler here:
http://images.traderonline.com/img/6/dealer/756118/905355_6.jpg
http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/9/2/14884192.htm
Starting to miss my 9'-EasyE-
SpeedyWhaler posted 10-25-2001 06:35 PM ET (US)
EasyE, keep an eye out for another one. It would be like the good ole days !:)

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EasyE	posted 10-22-2001 01:05 AM ET (US) This post branched from the "11'4" whaler" forum. --------------------------------------------- Speedywhaler, The trim tabs I used where from "The Shad Connection" they can also be used as a step to get in the boat cause there fixed in the position that you lock it. Get the smaller ones. I mounted them on the outer edges of the transom but not on the vee, if you look at the back of your boat youll see what i mean. Also I clamped my engine a vertical inch off the transom to be more stable and it helped with the speed too...less gearcase drag. The prop came from "Powertech", I think they have a 3blade and 4blade props for your engine(go with the 3blade). "A1discountprops" sells powertech props among alot of others. I would say a 15pitch is good for your boat. I should warn you your boat will probably be doing 40mph or more with the SS prop so I would suggest getting the trim tabs first. Parts Address's: Trim Tabs: http://www.theshadconnection.com/cgi-bin/page.cgi?page=657 SS Prop: http://www.a1discountprop.com/ Outboard Parts: http://www.outboardparts.com WantaWhale, I dount no much on the specs of the 9' tender. Perhaps jimh or someone else who has the catalog would no. I think the max hp is like 5hp. Oh i remember seeing the 9' specs in the General section of the forum. If you look back the last 2 years you should see it under "9' specs" i believe.-EasyE-
Highwater	posted 10-22-2001 08:39 AM ET (US) From the 11'4" thread and from email, this is what I undertand of this discussion: If you put a 25 hp engine on a 165-pound boat that is rated for less than half that amount, and you get a SST prop and trim tabs, you can make the 9' Whaler go 40 mph. This seems dangerous to one of the owners—but fun. The other owner says that using a 15 hp engine on the 9' , you can "spin out" on turns, but it does not feel like the boat is about to flip. If Mercury came out with a lightweight 40 hp engine, would you want to see what the 9' Whaler would do with it bolted an inch above the transom? Your vessel is not designed for for this application. I think you'd be safer if you took up sky diving or bungie jumping. Will you feel any responsibility toward the next owner when you sell your boat? Please don't think that I am being hostile—I am just concerned. I know of two young men that died when their over-powered boats flipped....
SpeedyWhaler	posted 10-22-2001 09:32 AM ET (US) I would never sell the boat and motor together, no i would never try and put more than a 25 HP, It takes alot of HP to get such a small boat on plain and i want to be able to sit then the very back and pop right up on plane and go fast when possible. The 25 can to the for me and the 15 could'nt.It seems insaine putting 25hp on a boat rated for 5hp but when you have steering wheel and throttle controls and you can center the weight perfectly it acts alot different, more like a boat then a dingy. I DONT HAVE TO GO WOT ALL THE TIME. LOA, 9' Beem 4'6" Draft 5" Weight 165LB MAX weight 405 LB Swamped cap 600LB Persons cap 3 Transome hight 15" I can stand on the gunwale with the (25hp) and bounce and water doesnt come over the side, this is a VERY heavy and studry 9 foot long boat. Obvisouly, you can lean on these and be fine
Bigshot	posted 10-22-2001 11:37 AM ET (US) too bad you are not in FL, I would love to go for a ride!
ledfoot	posted 10-22-2001 11:58 AM ET (US) Speedywhaler, Don't sweat the old guys; your 9 footer sounds like a total blast!! Where I grew up in Sarasota, FL, there was an 8' boat called a "Flivver" or something. They looked like a shallow bathtub, ran 20-35 hp motors, and they could turn on a dime. This was before jet boats, so you had to get your jollies somehow. Keep it up, I bet its a great sight seeing your boat flyin' along. You should make a video or something. ps we used to launch my 13' 4-6 feet in the air off the "Flying Fish" charterboat wake a few times a week back in the day...
Dick	posted 10-22-2001 12:46 PM ET (US) Been there and done that. Have fun but be safe. Used to jump tug boat wakes on the river with a home made 8 footer running a 25 Merc. Those were the good old days.
Bigshot	posted 10-22-2001 01:57 PM ET (US) I've jumped about everything in a 13' when I was a kid(paying for it now). Lived on the Barnegat Inlet jumping 6' breakers. I have NEVER seen a wake until I was on the Delaware in my 15' and hit a tugboat wake. Holy cow are they big.
EasyE	posted 10-22-2001 05:14 PM ET (US) When I had my 9' whaler that was my one of the best times i had on water.I had 2 custom low back bucket seats in the back with ridiculous size butt cushions for wave jumping. It was like a the Boston Whaler 9' jetski that was never made. I could of turn the boat in about a 3' radius. You see me along the bay going west then you would see a big wall off spray and the next thing you know im going east at almost the same speed. My friend had a 12' carolina skiff with a 25hp Johnson which also did about 29-30mph. He and I would go to local surf break and jump the 3-6foot swells for hours.When we started jumping the 6-7 footers the surfers there would all stop surfing just to watch us. Anyone doing anything would stop to stare. We caught AIR! I dount mean 3feet of air i mean 8-12feet of air. There nothing like the rush of approching a wave that is completly blocking the horizon.Your heart starts pumpin and then you hit the wave and you here your prop whinning you yank the safty lanyard engine stalls you slouch down in your seat while hold the padded handle with one hand and the tiller handle with next then you pray while lookin off the side off the boat your heart stops then you land transom first and you think "its a good thing my butt cushion is 9inched thick" then you feel all your blood starting come back and in the background you here surfers cheering. Wow, I was there for a minute. When im 84years old, sick and stuck in my bed(if i make it that old). Memories like these are all im going to have. Imagine an old sick man and the only memories he has is working where ever he worked for most of his life and he thinks,"my life was a waste ill do anything to live it over again". Well im not going to be that old man-EasyE-
Whalerdan	posted 10-23-2001 03:27 AM ET (US) Put me down for a ride in that thing too, but I'm driven! My dad (he's 67 years old) has a genoa canoe with a 25hp, it's like rideing a motorcycle on the water.
Whalerdan	posted 10-23-2001 03:34 AM ET (US) Bigshot - I know what you're talking about with those tug boat wakes. I hit one of those in Charleston Harbor. The closest thing I can compair it to was like Mountain Biking going down a deep revine (gully) and back up the other side. Scared the hell out me. Something to talk about ;) when I get old.
goldstem	posted 10-23-2001 08:25 AM ET (US) How about the wake from the ferry going from Falmouth harbour to Martha's Vinyard. Jumping it was nuts. Surfing it with a 13 was a blast. Just had to be carfull not to flip sideways :-)
SpeedyWhaler	posted 10-23-2001 08:38 AM ET (US) Not to change the great subject of wave jumping :) but, what are you guys thoughts on towing my 9' with the motor on it behind a sail boat down the ICW (Inter Coastal Waterway) how dangerous could that be?
SpeedyWhaler	posted 10-23-2001 08:49 AM ET (US) Oh and by the way, email me (syncpeth@yahoo.com) for a pic of my 9'.
blackdog	posted 10-23-2001 09:26 AM ET (US) Hmmmm sounds like some interest out there for a wave runner by B/W!! Had my first experience with a tugboat last year on the Delaware. J
WantaWhale	posted 10-23-2001 02:18 PM ET (US) Thanks for the pics, SpeedyWhaler. Man that thing looks neat! Makes the 11 look like a monster. How can you sit and drive that thing? looks like it would be great fun around jet skiers. ..Fletch
Bigshot	posted 10-23-2001 03:04 PM ET (US) EasyE....Brings back memories. If I was older(32) I would swear you were my kid. Used to surf the atlantic(LBI NJ) in my 13' and 15'. Man what a rush. Drop in....cruise the whitewash then look for an out before you got broadsided or ran into the jetty. Got busted by my Dad when I was like 14. Was pissed but impressed with my driving skills. Who knew he would be putting up an attic fan on the roof?
Flipper	posted 10-24-2001 10:35 PM ET (US) Thanks for the pic of the 9'; I can't believe how level she sits in the water! Was it low tide? Have fun with 'er.
EasyE	posted 10-25-2001 05:48 PM ET (US) I agree she sits quite well like with a 15hp. Mine mine was a 2 seater with custom bucket seats on the back. I found some other pics of 9' whaler here: http://images.traderonline.com/img/6/dealer/756118/905355_6.jpg http://adcache.boattraderonline.com/6/9/2/14884192.htm Starting to miss my 9'-EasyE-
SpeedyWhaler	posted 10-25-2001 06:35 PM ET (US) EasyE, keep an eye out for another one. It would be like the good ole days !:)