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SuburbanBoy posted 10-29-2001 11:21 PM ET (US)   Profile for SuburbanBoy   Send Email to SuburbanBoy  
I received my copy of Trailer Boat today, and it had an article about the 140hp Suzuki outboard. 140hp @6,000rpm, ~400 lbs, multipoint fuel injection etc. So far so good, we all agree that Suzuki makes some tasty hardware. But then the ugly committee grabbed on, and in the name of performance, added a silly spoiler to the back of the engine housing. I think it look ridicules. What do you think? I have not seen anything this bad since the Yamaha performance line (which they might still distribute). They too had a goofy little "aero aid" on the trailing edge of the top housing. Perhaps I should cut Suzuki some slack because they could have applied the left over "Surfer Punk" paint jobs from their older GSXR motorcycles. BTW, I have owned numerous Suzuki products in the past, including many rare and desirable motorcycles (came close to a new 70hp outboard this year, but could not quite stifle the urge to purchase another smoker). What do you think of this new style? Would you hang this on the back of your Outrage?

Yamaha:
http://www.yamaha-motor.com/products/otb/500/pg29_VX250_31_34-01.jpg

Suzuki:
http://www.suzukimarine.com/sr02/images/DF140TUL_3Q_02RT.jpg

Speak up! (Now where is my Nehru jacket?)
http://www.badfads.com/pages/fashion/nehru.html


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Tom W Clark posted 10-30-2001 12:21 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
Well, it's not my to my taste but this may be the next outboard fad and every one will have to have one!

Kinda' like these honkin' SUV's I see driving around town with brush guards, not only on the front but over the tail lights as well. And they seem to be generally immaculate and piloted by well groomed blond women. Do you really need brush guards as you crawl through traffic on the way to the mall? Or are they for brushing off pedestrians ŕ la Martha Stewart?

This is one of the reasons I always liked Whalers, simple, functional and unpretentious.

jimh posted 10-30-2001 12:33 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
I read that article yesterday, and although I recall noticing the strange appendage on the cowling, I don't recall being bothered by it.

Now that you have called my attention to it, I agree that it looks a bit odd. I hope there is an underlying reason for it, something other than just appearance's sake.

I will strongly agree with you on the importance of styling in the cowling design. This is an essential part of an engine's appeal, along with color scheme and graphics.

The proportions need to be right, the curves right, the paint job done right. Really great machinery often is packaged in really great enclosures.

Sometimes this is carried to extremes. For example, Steve Jobs decreed that the NeXT computer would be built into a cube exactly one foot on a side. The engineers pleaded to please make it slightly larger (to accomodate some hardware they wanted to use) but Jobs refused to budge. He had a "look" he wanted and the hardware would have to be built to fit.

The final product, the NeXT computer, was beautiful. Its dark, almost black, color set a trend. That was October of 1988.

This summer we took delivery of 70 new workstation PeeCees from Dell, their latest, newest style machine. Everyone in the office thought these new machines were so much "cooler" looking than the five year old beige case machines they were replacing. They had never seen a black computer before...

Of course the case is ugly as sin and should be hidden under the desk, but at least the PeeCee world has finally--13 years later--caught on to the trend to dark, black, computer cases.

Back to engines...

There is a trend to have smooth, flowing curves in the cowling, but some of these engines have really huge footprints. Their cowlings are gigantic compared to outboards from just a few years ago. As these things get bigger, the attention to esthetics becomes more important, otherwise the engine can look just plain ugly and overweight.

Whalerdan posted 10-30-2001 01:25 AM ET (US)     Profile for Whalerdan  Send Email to Whalerdan     
IMO it looks pretty cool. Not sure it would match on an older whaler though. Maybe would look good on a 20 flats boat or something.
JBCornwell posted 10-30-2001 02:51 AM ET (US)     Profile for JBCornwell  Send Email to JBCornwell     
I agree: ugly. I don't care. I thought Forces looked cool and Bayliners pretty.

I would prefer that it looked like my DF70. . .functional, but I would probably use it anyway.

Red sky at night. . .
JB :)

Bigshot posted 10-30-2001 10:37 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Man you think that is ugly, what about those space-aged outboards from the 50's & 60's? I can only imagine what people said when Merc revealed their tower of power. "Ooooh it is so skinny and tall and why is the prop hollow? I like pointy props and bullet styled 2 piece lower units."

I get a kick out of seeing those old setups. the boat with fins like a 59 Eldo. 18' with a cabin and a whopping 75hp that resembles a kitchen appliance all they way down to the metal name badges. You wonder what the hell were they thinking. Suddenly poof! OMC designs the modern engine(which Merc had for years). 1967? they are all big and funky and look like Alien, next year they look great and maintain the exact look for 30+ years. Are reverting back to the 50's again.

blackdog posted 10-30-2001 11:26 AM ET (US)     Profile for blackdog  Send Email to blackdog     
I took some digital pictures of the Suzuki 115 four stroke and 140 side by side at the Annapolis boat show but I have no place to post them! Does look different but I was standing next to them as they ran, quiet, no smoke. Some one fired up an older 2 stroke 3 boats down, man could you smell, hear and see the difference. Now the Dealer who was selling this particular cat with twin 115 thought he would jut start them up as he began to speak to me just to show off. I got news for him; My 115 Ficht is just as Quite with no smoke also! I was impressed but not overly.
PS- I think the cowling looks like a handle
Lil Whaler Lover posted 10-30-2001 12:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for Lil Whaler Lover  Send Email to Lil Whaler Lover     
Look at the picture on page of 47 of Trailerboats and read the caption by the picture of the engine. The "thing" on the back is functional. It provides the air intake for the engine. We will see more odd lumps and bumps on outboards as they try to keep the physical size to a minimum, in part because we always complain aout them being too big.

Just a few thoughts on this subject. Dave

SuburbanBoy posted 10-30-2001 06:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for SuburbanBoy  Send Email to SuburbanBoy     
Lil Whaler Lover- That is why I said "and in the name of performance, added a silly spoiler to the back of the engine housing." They claimed that the bulbous appendage was involved in the airflow into the motor intake system. Somehow I don't think that they spent a lot of time in a wind tunnel. I believe that they spent more time with clay mockups in a stylist's studio. Just wait, you will see more spatter paint and punk surfer graphics next. This is just a shot over the bow. It's not the steak it's the sizzle.

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Kim posted 11-02-2001 02:03 AM ET (US)     Profile for Kim  Send Email to Kim     
SuburbanBoy
I have a DF70 Suzuki ...
but I think you are right they are butt ugly...
kim.
where2 posted 11-05-2001 01:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for where2  Send Email to where2     
Waiting for one with an "active" spoiler like the one on my '90 VW Corrado. Sits out of the way until you hit 45mph (70 on the european version), then raises to control rear end lift (upto 137mph where the goods under the hood become the limit). Drops out of the way at 12mph so you can see to park the car.

Need something similar to pickup 40mph airflow and ram it down the carbs of the 70Hp Johnson on the back of my 15' Sport? Probably not...

ghost posted 11-05-2001 05:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for ghost    
Found this on Soundings online site,it explains the weird looking intake on top.
Guess it is not just for looks.....i have
been looking at different 4 strokes, thats
why it caught my attention.......Sorry I posted this twice. Once in the wrong topic.

Based on Suzuki’s in-line powerhead found in the company’s 90- and 115-hp 4-strokes, the DF140 features an offset drive shaft for compact size. The 20-inch-shaft model weighs about 410 pounds, the 25-inch-shaft model 420 pounds. The DF140 weighs slightly less than Mercury’s 135-hp OptiMax 2-stroke engine (443 pounds) and just 10 percent more than Suzuki’s own 140-hp 2-stroke, according to weights published by the manufacturers.

The DF140 is geared for boats to about 26 feet, says Larry Vandiver, marketing director for the marine division of American Suzuki Motor Corp. He says a single engine is suitable for an 18-foot runabout, while twin DF140s provide enough kick for a 26-foot power catamaran.

The engine’s performance characteristics, fuel efficiency, and power-to-weight ratio suit a range of boat designs, says Vandiver, “from bay boats to pontoon boats, flats boats to walleye boats, even deep-vee bluewater fishing boats and catamarans.”

The DF140 features a redesigned cowling with a large air induction port designed to increase power. The louvered port and air chamber permit quiet intake of air while helping prevent debris from entering the engine compartment.

Along with multipoint sequential fuel injection, the engine features an oil-cooled, 40-amp alternator and multifunction tachometer with engine performance monitor. The compact, in-line powerhead features a total displacement of 124.7 cubic inches.

The DF140 is expected to begin arriving at dealerships around the end of the year, with suggested retail prices of $10,311 for the 20-inch shaft, $10,374 for the 25-inch shaft, and $10,686 for the counter rotating model.

george nagy posted 11-05-2001 07:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for george nagy  Send Email to george nagy     
I have been quoted prices nearer $8,000. I'm really considering one for my 18' outrage.

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