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Whaletosh posted 03-05-2002 12:37 PM ET (US)   Profile for Whaletosh  
Here is what I expect for Mercury (domestic market) over the next couple of model years:

1) Dropping all two stroke motors except Optimax based units, 135 HP and up.

2) Dropping the 75 Hp 4-stroke.

3) Adding EFI to the 90 HP 4-stroke.

4) Adding an EFI 4-stroke in the 125 to 130 HP range based on the current 75/90/115 block.

5) A 200/225/250 EFI 4-stroke.

Just some rambling on my lunch hour.

SteveC posted 03-05-2002 03:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for SteveC    
If the mercury 4-stroke engines are yamaha and the johnson/evinrudes are suzuki, is the end of the carburated 2-strokes going to be the end of U.S. presence in the sub-V6 markets. I don't have a problem buying imports, but it is discouraging to think that these companys would just roll over.

I own both Yamaha and Merc small outboards, and they are both OK.

Bigshot posted 03-05-2002 04:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Nah! The Japanese will then come here and build their stuff just like they do now. No Japanese cars are imported...they are all made in Tenessee or something. Heck my Benz is made here.
Clark Roberts posted 03-05-2002 06:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for Clark Roberts  Send Email to Clark Roberts     
Here's the scoop for the 2002 4 stroker Mercs, right out of the brochure! The following are EFI> 30, 40, 50, 60 and 115. Why not EFI on the 75 and 90hp ??? The 75 and 90 are 97.4 cubic inches and the 115 is a stroked version at 106.2 cubic inches. All three use dual overhead cam (cam on valve stem/no rockers) and 4 valves per cyl. for a very simple valve train. BTW, I just looked at the valve train on the new Honda VTEC (variable timing engine control) 225 and talk about complex valve train... wow!
Flipper posted 03-06-2002 01:17 AM ET (US)     Profile for Flipper  Send Email to Flipper     
If they had an EFI 90, I'd get one tomorrow.They're dodging my power range!
lhg posted 03-06-2002 06:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
The question as to why the Merc 75-90 4-strokes are not EFI should probably be asked of Yamaha, since the twin 80/100's aren't either. They have not been too progressive with EFI 4 strokes below 115 HP. I would agree that Mercury is probably working on new EFI 4-strokes in the 75-115 range, since their relationship with Yamaha is supposedly over or ending. Since the new 60 EFI is a one piece lost foam cast block with a single overhead cam, this could be what's in the works for the 75-115's. It would help solve the weight problem also.

As of yet, there is no indication either Mercury or Yamaha is interested in DFI's below the 135/150 HP range. Bombardier is doing it, perhaps because they have nothing else in clean offerings above the Suzuki built 70's and the V-6 150 HP Fichts.

Dick E posted 03-06-2002 07:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dick E  Send Email to Dick E     
Flipper Why don't you spring for the 4 stroke EFI 115 it weighs the same as the 4 stroke 90 and only $500 more. See weight and price link below


http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/midRangeRepower.html

Flipper posted 03-06-2002 10:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for Flipper  Send Email to Flipper     
Dick E , sorry I meant to write EFI two-stroke 90. I missed the "4 stroker" in Clark's reply.

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