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mbking1 posted 03-22-2002 07:22 PM ET (US)
I hope this is not too far off topic. I am considering the Garmin 168. Does anyone know if it has enough memory to download central Florida data? Does anyone know how detailed the data is for the St. Johns River area? Also, how difficult is it to choose data from cd and get it into the unit? Any thoughts would be welcome. I need to make decision soon. Thanks. Mark
Ed Stone posted 03-22-2002 08:54 PM ET (US)
Hey Mark,
I have the 168 Garmin with a external
antenna.I have the map source Waterways
& lights CD.I checked St. Johns river and
there is only limited detail.
I just got the blue chart cd.It shows
a lot more detail for the Tampa bay area.
The area I unlocked does not include St.
Johns river.
There is more information on the Garmin
168 and 162 in the general section.
Triblet has the 162 Garmin on his montauk.
His info has been a great deal of help
for me.
If I were you I would get the 168 with
the internal Antenna.
Good luck!
Ed Stone
mbking1 posted 03-22-2002 09:00 PM ET (US)
Ed Stone:
Thanks for the info. Is the info easy to transfer from the new blue cd imported into the 168? Was there enough memory to download the Tampa Bay info? Also, is it a big improvement from the old cd? Thanks. Mark
Ed Stone posted 03-22-2002 09:26 PM ET (US)
I downloaded a huge map from the blue chart.
It took me a little time but it was not that
difficult.And yes,Triblet was right it is
much better than the old Cd.
Ed Stone
FISHNFF posted 03-22-2002 11:40 PM ET (US)
I have a 162 with an internal ant and absolutely love it. The BlueChart is much better than the US Waterways and Lights. Great machine and now great software.
triblet posted 03-23-2002 08:32 PM ET (US)
I have a 162 with external antenna and the
BlueCharts on my Montauk.
The 2.5 meg of memory is a lot. It holds
everything I need for ALL my trips (Monterey,
SF Bay, Sac delta, and Don Pedro, and my
house). What's the specific range of areas
you are interested in?, and maybe someone who
has Florida unlocked can get Mapsource to
tell you how big they are (It's no big deal,
but I can't, you can't
see this until you pay to unlock the area.
Garmin has taken some heat for this, so I
expect to see something on their website by
and by.
I got the external antenna because my 175
(which used to be on the console) got
noticably stronger signal bars with an
external antenna I aquired (the price was
VERY right) than with the builtin antenna.
I'm not a big fan of the combined GPS and
fishfinder because when I'm looking for a
dive site, I'm watching both very carefully:
the GPS to find the pinnacle, then the
depthfinder so I can lay the anchor right on
the bottom next to it. If you don't use both
at once, the combined units should be fine,
other than the single-point-of-failure
problem.
The BlueCharts have great detail, but take
FOREVER to update on the 162. About 13
seconds, and the boat icon stops moving
while they are updating. I turn off the
BlueCharts unless I need them. Most of the
time is spent coloring in the shading of the
depth contours, which are essentially
indistinquishable on the B&W 162 anyway.
There is no 162C (color). I don't expect to
see one -- the 162 is about two years old.
If you want color in a unit about that size,
get a 176C. If I was in the market for a
console mount GPS today, I'd take a hard
look at the 176, 176C, and the Standard 150.
Somebody asked the "what;s the best GPS?"
offline. How much do you want to spend? I'd
love to have 2010C (not sure I've got console
space) or 2006C, but they are a BUNCH of
money. Or a marine computer driving the IBM
9 megapixel LCD (about $10K for the screen),
and you gotta water proof it. ;-).
The GPS biz is going to be very dynamic for
several more years. The bottom has dropped
out of computer LCD screen prices, so I
expect 6" VGA res (640x480) color GPSs to be
under $1K in a year or two. All it's going
to take is someone starting a price war (I'll
bet on Standard or Magellan).

Chuck

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Author	Topic: GARMIN GPS ON MONTAUK
mbking1	posted 03-22-2002 07:22 PM ET (US) I hope this is not too far off topic. I am considering the Garmin 168. Does anyone know if it has enough memory to download central Florida data? Does anyone know how detailed the data is for the St. Johns River area? Also, how difficult is it to choose data from cd and get it into the unit? Any thoughts would be welcome. I need to make decision soon. Thanks. Mark
Ed Stone	posted 03-22-2002 08:54 PM ET (US) Hey Mark, I have the 168 Garmin with a external antenna.I have the map source Waterways & lights CD.I checked St. Johns river and there is only limited detail. I just got the blue chart cd.It shows a lot more detail for the Tampa bay area. The area I unlocked does not include St. Johns river. There is more information on the Garmin 168 and 162 in the general section. Triblet has the 162 Garmin on his montauk. His info has been a great deal of help for me. If I were you I would get the 168 with the internal Antenna. Good luck! Ed Stone
mbking1	posted 03-22-2002 09:00 PM ET (US) Ed Stone: Thanks for the info. Is the info easy to transfer from the new blue cd imported into the 168? Was there enough memory to download the Tampa Bay info? Also, is it a big improvement from the old cd? Thanks. Mark
Ed Stone	posted 03-22-2002 09:26 PM ET (US) I downloaded a huge map from the blue chart. It took me a little time but it was not that difficult.And yes,Triblet was right it is much better than the old Cd. Ed Stone
FISHNFF	posted 03-22-2002 11:40 PM ET (US) I have a 162 with an internal ant and absolutely love it. The BlueChart is much better than the US Waterways and Lights. Great machine and now great software.
triblet	posted 03-23-2002 08:32 PM ET (US) I have a 162 with external antenna and the BlueCharts on my Montauk. The 2.5 meg of memory is a lot. It holds everything I need for ALL my trips (Monterey, SF Bay, Sac delta, and Don Pedro, and my house). What's the specific range of areas you are interested in?, and maybe someone who has Florida unlocked can get Mapsource to tell you how big they are (It's no big deal, but I can't, you can't see this until you pay to unlock the area. Garmin has taken some heat for this, so I expect to see something on their website by and by. I got the external antenna because my 175 (which used to be on the console) got noticably stronger signal bars with an external antenna I aquired (the price was VERY right) than with the builtin antenna. I'm not a big fan of the combined GPS and fishfinder because when I'm looking for a dive site, I'm watching both very carefully: the GPS to find the pinnacle, then the depthfinder so I can lay the anchor right on the bottom next to it. If you don't use both at once, the combined units should be fine, other than the single-point-of-failure problem. The BlueCharts have great detail, but take FOREVER to update on the 162. About 13 seconds, and the boat icon stops moving while they are updating. I turn off the BlueCharts unless I need them. Most of the time is spent coloring in the shading of the depth contours, which are essentially indistinquishable on the B&W 162 anyway. There is no 162C (color). I don't expect to see one -- the 162 is about two years old. If you want color in a unit about that size, get a 176C. If I was in the market for a console mount GPS today, I'd take a hard look at the 176, 176C, and the Standard 150. Somebody asked the "what;s the best GPS?" offline. How much do you want to spend? I'd love to have 2010C (not sure I've got console space) or 2006C, but they are a BUNCH of money. Or a marine computer driving the IBM 9 megapixel LCD (about $10K for the screen), and you gotta water proof it. ;-). The GPS biz is going to be very dynamic for several more years. The bottom has dropped out of computer LCD screen prices, so I expect 6" VGA res (640x480) color GPSs to be under $1K in a year or two. All it's going to take is someone starting a price war (I'll bet on Standard or Magellan). Chuck