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ctoutrage posted 04-04-2002 10:50 AM ET (US)   Profile for ctoutrage   Send Email to ctoutrage  
I presently have twin 75hp Evinrudes and I am ready to repower. I have decided to switch to a single 200hp. I contacted whaler and they say I need a 20" shaft. My questions are: Is that the correct shaft length? and deciding between Yamaha EFI/ Evinrude Ficht/ Johnson Carb. (20) OMC dealers, (2) Yamaha dealers. We probably use our boat (20) times per season. Does it make sense to pay up for the fuel injection? I have located a 2001 Johnson 200 20" for $7900. Is that good? What am I looking at for the rigging?
Thanks in advance-
Bigshot posted 04-04-2002 01:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Not bad on price. Consider about $1000 to rig with new controls, guages, prop, etc.
lhg posted 04-04-2002 05:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
200 HP is a lot for the 21 Outrage. If you're not looking for a speedboat, you might want to consider 150 HP instead, which should give you 45 MPH.

As a benchmark, a 2002 Merc 200 Carb is about $8700., so the price on the leftover OMC engine is not that great. You should also read back in the Forum for Bombardier's comments on late model OMC engines. Lots of inferior parts and tolerances, resulting in short life expectancies. I just saw a new Bombardier/Johnson ad talking about "parts re-applying for the job". What does that tell you? Consider a new 2002 Johnson instead.

I'd go for either Yamaha's or Mercury's EFI if it were me. Totally trouble free engines, with better economy and less smoke than the carb engines. Price differential is about $1300., which is more than it used to be, because demand for them is high. You'll like their superior performance characteristics.

dfmcintyre posted 04-04-2002 08:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for dfmcintyre  Send Email to dfmcintyre     
We put a carb'ed 200 Yamaha on our 21 hull and are very happy with it. It can get to be a handfull at WOT and turning. Keep it pointed in a straight line with a firm hand on the wheel and it's no problem.

From what I recall my mechanic saying, the transom height is an "inbetween"'s too short for a long shaft but too deep for a short shaft.

We ended up installing a long shaft and placed it on a setback bracket.

Your best bet would be to measure both models of whatever engine you plan on purchasing, and check it against the transom. The anti-cavitation plate should be at the minimum, level with the bottom of the hull, and better yet, above the bottom.

Best - Don McIntyre

ctoutrage posted 04-05-2002 04:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for ctoutrage  Send Email to ctoutrage     
Appreciation to all. Decided on a 2002 175 Johnson. Would have loved the Yamaha, but there is only one dealer in our area and many OMC dealers. It is a 20" shaft. LHG, thanks for the tip, my dealer also recommended not going with the 200, too much engine and weight for the hull. Fuel injection would have been great, but just can't justify the additional cost on Long Island Sound. We are never more than 2-3 miles off shore ever. Short season as well.

Thanks again- M

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