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John from Madison CT posted 06-16-2002 07:38 AM ET (US)   Profile for John from Madison CT   Send Email to John from Madison CT  
OK Boys, here goes:

Got the boat home last night after a very long trip from Cape Cod. Anyway, let me take a step back.

When I test drove the boat a couple of weeks ago, I got 4900-5000RPM's max out of the set up. The boat has a Tee Top, Whaler Drive and it had the front Curtain installed on the Tee Top (Lots of Drag)

The boat seemed to plain easy..ran fast (Mid 40's), but was stopping just short of 5000RPM's. At the time I was wondering what kind of Prop was on the motor.

Last night, I noticed that there was what seemed to be a 21" pitch Stainless Yamaha Prop of the rig. The only designation I could read was on the side of the prop with a letter then a hypen then the 21. I assume this means 21" pitch.

Yamaha shows specs for this motor such that the Max RPM's should be 4500-5500. Also, I thought I read that Max HP is made at 5000RPM's.

OK, finally for the question: Would I benefit by going to a 19" Pitch prop? Oh yeah, let me know if the Letter-21 mark on the prop may not indicate 21" pitch.

Thanks guys,

John from Madison, CT

whalerfran posted 06-16-2002 10:33 AM ET (US)     Profile for whalerfran    
The letter-21 does refer to pitch. I recommend trying a 19" pitch for increased rpm and better performance.
reelescape1 posted 06-16-2002 12:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for reelescape1  Send Email to reelescape1     
I'll second that motion....
David Ratusnik posted 06-16-2002 09:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for David Ratusnik  Send Email to David Ratusnik     
John- I agree with the boys- toooo much pitch at 21". I run a 225 with a 15x17", goes toward mid 5,000rpms. Screams, plus perfect to pull wakeboard crowd, cruise or fish. .03 David
tabasco posted 06-17-2002 07:17 AM ET (US)     Profile for tabasco  Send Email to tabasco     
John- Call Skip Birbarie At Birbarie Marine in Branford, Ct.Tel: 203-488-2568 He is the Whaler dealer in the area and is the most knowledgeable person I know on Whalers. He used to race boats.He is also a Mercury & Yamaha dealer.Tell him Ray from NYC suggested you call.
Peter posted 06-17-2002 10:10 AM ET (US)     Profile for Peter  Send Email to Peter     
John, for rough comparison purposes, I'm running a 17" pitch on a 22 Revenge WT powered by a 225 Yamaha OX66. WOT is about 5300. The dry weight of a 22 Revenge is about the same as 22 Outrage WD. However, you have the T top which probably adds more drag, particularly with curtains up. 21" pitch, even for a 250, is too much. Drop to 19" to get your rpms up over 5200 when lightly loaded.
John from Madison CT posted 06-18-2002 09:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for John from Madison CT  Send Email to John from Madison CT     

Thanks for the help. I bought a "used" Yamaha 15 1/4" x 19" Saltwater Series SS prop from a Yamaha dealer. Only saved 20% off List but needed one.


lpaton posted 06-19-2002 06:58 AM ET (US)     Profile for lpaton  Send Email to lpaton     
Could ue input from above members on my post in post classic section
John from Madison CT posted 06-19-2002 03:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for John from Madison CT  Send Email to John from Madison CT     
Boats in WATER !! Took test ride with new prop..

Gained 300RPM's with this (15 1/4 x 19") Prop at WOT, now 5200. Expected 400RPM gain but realized that prop has larger diameter by 3/8".

Top Speed is 44MPH (Light load) but with Front Curtain on Tee Top.


reelescape1 posted 06-19-2002 04:30 PM ET (US)     Profile for reelescape1  Send Email to reelescape1     
My 22' OR w/225 Yam, 19 prop, t-top w/curtains, 5000 rpm @ 46-47 mph, transom mount.
John from Madison CT posted 06-19-2002 09:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for John from Madison CT  Send Email to John from Madison CT     

I was told that he Whaler drive, not only adds weight (~300lbs.) but also bleeds some speed due to wettable surface.

I am thrilled with the ride. Feels like a much bigger boat than 22'. With bow pulpit, and Whaler Drive, she LOA's at nearly 26' !!


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