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andiamo posted 07-09-2002 02:57 PM ET (US)   Profile for andiamo   Send Email to andiamo  
I am about to take delivery of a 1986 Montauk and wanted peoples input into what GPS unit to get. I will be using it on the Canadian East Coast and have been told that some of the hardware does not have chart software for here.
reelescape1 posted 07-09-2002 04:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for reelescape1  Send Email to reelescape1     
I am very happy with my Garmin 182. I bought the large chart.
OutrageMan posted 07-10-2002 07:34 AM ET (US)     Profile for OutrageMan  Send Email to OutrageMan     
I have owned two Standard Horizon units (the CP 150 and CP 160) and will continue to buy more if needed. They use the C-Map NT cartridges. Right now you can get a color unit with WAAS and antenna for under $799.

Brian

andiamo posted 07-10-2002 10:23 AM ET (US)     Profile for andiamo  Send Email to andiamo     
do you know the model number?
OutrageMan posted 07-10-2002 11:12 AM ET (US)     Profile for OutrageMan  Send Email to OutrageMan     
The color Model is the CP150C

Brian

Jerry Townsend posted 07-10-2002 12:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jerry Townsend  Send Email to Jerry Townsend     
The previous Standard Horizon color unit was the CP 170C selling for something over $1000. They recently brought out the CP 150C for about $800. I was looking at and will buy the CP 160C (b&w, 2 map slots, 6 programmable pre-set hot-key buttons).

I think that the C-map NT maps are available for the U.S., Canada and I suspect much of the world. I am not sure if the Garmin maps cover Canada. Also, the C-map NT maps cover virtually every state. This is most important to me as I live in Idaho and sometimes get up into British Columbia and around Vancouver Island. ---- Jerry/Idaho

andiamo posted 07-10-2002 06:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for andiamo  Send Email to andiamo     
the 150 is $699 cdn. The 150C is $1,399. Does anyone think that the colour is worth twice as much as the B&W?

Plus the chart software is an additional $300 cdn. I think that the 150 plus chart program is all I can afford

OutrageMan posted 07-11-2002 07:58 AM ET (US)     Profile for OutrageMan  Send Email to OutrageMan     
You wont go wrong with the 150. That is what I have now, and I love it.

Brian

John from Madison CT posted 07-11-2002 08:03 AM ET (US)     Profile for John from Madison CT  Send Email to John from Madison CT     
It's always tough to do a side by side comparison of GPS units, but all I can say is that I own the Garmin 182 and am thrilled with it.

The Bluechart chips show amazing detail. I really can't ask for anything more. (except color<G>)

I was lucky to get a great Ebay refirb'd deal on one for $370, but I've seen them for near $600 new and do believe they're worth it.

John from Madison, CT

aubv posted 07-11-2002 08:20 AM ET (US)     Profile for aubv  Send Email to aubv     
I would recommend if possible go to a marine retailer or boat show and look/play with the units you are interested in that fit your budget, not only in dollars but mounting space. We did this earlier this year and purchased a Garmin 2006C and a large chip for our area. This is our second Garmin GPS, first was hand held and have found them easy to use and understand.
fwiw
andiamo posted 07-11-2002 10:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for andiamo  Send Email to andiamo     
It was my understanding that the Garman Blue Chart did not yet cover Canada. I too had an early Garman handheld and loved it. I will try and contact them to find out about coverage.

While chart detail is great, I really need location detail as I have a very tight entrance into our cove. If the fog comes in I want to know I am 3m from my way point which I will set on location, not on the chart.

aubv posted 07-12-2002 09:30 AM ET (US)     Profile for aubv  Send Email to aubv     
Andiamo,

Any GPS that has tracking feature, even a simple hand held would get you back through a tight spot if you have traveled it before. I use this feature all of the time as I travel some tight channels also. It is a very useful tool when it comes to trolling also.
fwiw

andiamo posted 07-12-2002 11:13 AM ET (US)     Profile for andiamo  Send Email to andiamo     
My dealer is suggesting a Raychart 425 from Raymarine. Does any one have any thoughts on this model?
Jerry Townsend posted 07-12-2002 12:45 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jerry Townsend  Send Email to Jerry Townsend     
Andiamo - I considered the Raytheon (Raymarine) charting GPS units - along with the Garmin and Standard Horizon. I like Raytheon equipment - but in this case, the image resolution was decidedly poorer than that of the Standard Horizon or Garmin. I am seriously considering the Standard Horizon CP-160 -- 6 inch display, C-Map-NT maps (Canada and all states), good resolution, slots for 2 maps, 6 pre-set 'hot-keys', ... But, I haven't ordered it yet. ------ Jerry/Idaho
BillD posted 07-12-2002 01:00 PM ET (US)     Profile for BillD  Send Email to BillD     
I have used a Ray Chart product (can't remember which one) integrated with a radar on a lager boat and it was great.

My current favorite GPS / Chartplotter for smaller open boats is the Garmin GPSMAP 176 or the 176C color version. The reasons I like it are:

Price: 499.99 (US) for BW 599.99 color (I actually paid 10% less from www.avdancedgps.com) this includes a built in antenna and wiring.

Power options: It is battery operated or can be hardwired.

Handheld and portable: Because it is Battery operated you can move it around the boat, in the car, or on another boat. Also easy to take off the boat. I also found that it is easy to sit in your living room and set up your plots / waypoints / etc. you can not do this with a fixed install system.

Big Screen: The screen is not as large as the fixed mount screens, but bigger than any handheld out there. It is easy to read but not too big to clutter up the console.

Internal Antenna: With the internal antenna you have nothing else to mount, and it works perfectly in a center console boat. Works fine under the Bimini. Very clean install.

Charts: It uses the Garmin Blue Charts. Which do cover eastern Canada
http://www.garmin.com/cartography/bluechart/region.jsp?RegionPK=75

I bought the single chart chip, which for me covers from Southern New Hampshire to Montauk Point ($130) and can not imagine straying too far out of this area. If you prefer, you can use the PC based Charts and download them to a chip in the unit. The advantage is you can change charts and set all your waypoints / routes on your PC and download them to the unit.

Installation: You can install it in 3 min with a screw driver if you are running it on Batteries, no one to pay.

Yea I know I may sound like a Garmin sales person, but I really just like my unit. It was inexpensive (relatively), easy to use, and portable, with charts that cover a big area.

where2 posted 07-12-2002 01:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for where2  Send Email to where2     
I really got a steal on my Refurb CP160 when I picked it up a month or two back for $299! (with full 3 year Standard Horizon warranty!). So far my only gripe is that it jumps from the 0.2 mile scale to 0.5 miles randomly. A phone call or two to Standard Horizon led me along to C-Map who actually wrote the software for the 150/160/170's. They managed to get the same results using my chart and have contacted the software developers in Italy to get to the bottom of it. I can't get service response like that at the car dealership around the corner!

My vote is for the Standard Horizon 150/160. I wouldn't necessarily pay the extra $$$ for the 5 hot keys if I had to choose between $400us and $600us. The charts are easy enough to pop in and out, having dual slots is a bit of overkill. The COLOR ones are beautiful! I continue to look for Refurb color ones!!

BillD posted 07-12-2002 01:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for BillD  Send Email to BillD     
Sorry in the previous post that should be:

www.advancedgps.com

oops

Bigshot posted 07-12-2002 01:03 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
another thing to consider is my friend just bought a new one(can't remeber brand) and you can move the pointer and click and it will take you there, etc. All others won't. Neat feature.....like windows.
rsgwynn1 posted 07-13-2002 11:46 AM ET (US)     Profile for rsgwynn1  Send Email to rsgwynn1     
I have the Garmin GPSMap 168. Charts are downloadable via cd and it also has a fish finder, great for small consoles.
rsgwynn1 posted 07-13-2002 11:46 AM ET (US)     Profile for rsgwynn1  Send Email to rsgwynn1     
I have the Garmin GPSMap 168. Charts are downloadable via cd and it also has a fish finder, great for small consoles.
aubv posted 07-13-2002 09:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for aubv  Send Email to aubv     
Bigshot,

Garmin has that ability.

Andiamo,

You might want to check Thehulltruth.com under electronics. There is one individual who seems to be a stand out when it comes to electronics. Some interesting reading. Just make you sure you leave a trail of bread crumbs to find your way back here. ;)
fwiw

Jerry Townsend posted 07-13-2002 11:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for Jerry Townsend  Send Email to Jerry Townsend     
Bigshot - the Standard Horizon and Furino have the 'targeted location' GoTo feature. It is very nice in big water. ---- Jerry/Idaho
Taylor posted 07-15-2002 03:06 PM ET (US)     Profile for Taylor  Send Email to Taylor     
Where2 - Please let us know if you see another deal like that. I've been kicking myself about missing the first one.
half shell posted 07-16-2002 08:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for half shell  Send Email to half shell     
Do you guys really use those gps units?In my home waters of Buzzards bay I just cant see a use.Ican find all the rocks the stripers hide out at without one.However in the flats and reefs of the Florida Keys it would be invaluable.And yes I think the 176 Garmin is a good unit.
aubv posted 07-16-2002 09:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for aubv  Send Email to aubv     
Half shell,

I can't imagine boating without one. Even the simplest non mapping units are an extremely valuable safety tool and don't hurt finding an exact spot on Middle Ground or Hedge Fence for fishing either.

Ever had fog roll in on you? Having a GPS and being able to retrace you steps even slowly makes them worth there weight in gold, considering some of the channels around the Elizabeth Islands on the southern edge of Buzzards Bay.

Ever get stuck because of mechanical problems? Being able to direct help to your location could be life saving.
fwiw


jameso posted 07-17-2002 09:21 AM ET (US)     Profile for jameso  Send Email to jameso     
Bought a Garmin Map 76 from Boaters World. They were having a grand opening and I shamed the manager into selling it for $330 and change. Love it! and it floats!
My 02, Jim Armstrong
DrZ posted 07-17-2002 08:38 PM ET (US)     Profile for DrZ  Send Email to DrZ     
Got the Standard Horizon CP 170 C color chartplotter at West Marine for $899.99 minus rebate, approx $35. The unit is incredible. Excellent visibility in the South Florida sun and a large enough screen to be really usefull in navigating all the inland channels and fishing spots. The accuracy is scary. Recommend it highly.
TightPenny posted 07-19-2002 02:32 PM ET (US)     Profile for TightPenny  Send Email to TightPenny     
I have a Garmin GPSMAP 235 on my Montauk.

The only problem I have had is a weak mounting bracket. After busting it too many times, I made a new mount out of starboard and the thing doesn't move anymore.

triblet posted 07-19-2002 08:11 PM ET (US)     Profile for triblet  Send Email to triblet     
Fog story: A few weeks ago Admiral Linda and
I went diving. It was gorgeous and sunny,
which is rare in Monterey in the morning.
Our first dive was a site called Ball Buster
(so named because it's littered with big
cannon ball downrigger weights). We came
up from the dive, and the fog had rolled in
and was thickest I'd ever seen. Visibility
was a couple of hundred feet. No problem,
Garmin found the second site, Aumentos Reef,
no sweat, but I decided not to dive there
because the fog was just as thick and there's
some boat traffic near there. So we moved
on to Eric's Pinnacle Damnit (sorry, Jim,
that's the name) which is just out side the
main kelp bed. We'd just anchored up when
one of the commerical dive boat's showed up
and the Captain asks "where's Eric's?".
"That little patch of kelp 10' off your
stern" sez I. He's fine captain, but he's
used to finding it by eyballing the houses
a couple of hundred feet away. No houses
that day.

Chuck

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