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dwaldron posted 07-17-2002 01:12 PM ET (US)   Profile for dwaldron   Send Email to dwaldron  
Can anybody provide insight into the Bearcat 4 stroke engines. I get my hand on a 1970 version today at around 4:30.
Bigshot posted 07-17-2002 01:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
made good anchors:)
dwaldron posted 07-17-2002 01:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for dwaldron  Send Email to dwaldron     
I don't like to hear that. Looking through the threads posted here I don't see many people talking about the original motor.
Whaler Proud posted 07-17-2002 03:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whaler Proud  Send Email to Whaler Proud     
dwaldron:

Don't mind him, he likes to stir the pot sometimes :c).

Try this thread for information on the Bearcat:
[url]http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/history/bearcat.html [/url]

Whaler Proud posted 07-17-2002 03:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whaler Proud  Send Email to Whaler Proud     
Try it this way, probably better:

[url]http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/history/bearcat.html [url/]

Whaler Proud posted 07-17-2002 03:18 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whaler Proud  Send Email to Whaler Proud     
If this doesn't work, I give up:

http://continuouswave.com/whaler/reference/history/bearcat.html

Bigshot posted 07-17-2002 04:33 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
I put a smiley face after it:)
Bigshot posted 07-17-2002 04:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
great article! My neighbor had a 55 Homelite. It would be neat to get one rebuilt w/warranty for 1800 and drop it on a 16'.
Whaler Proud posted 07-17-2002 05:12 PM ET (US)     Profile for Whaler Proud  Send Email to Whaler Proud     
I meant to add this link also but got frustrated on the several attempts:

http://www.4cyclemarine.com/

Bigshot: I knew you were winking behind that smiley face ;c)

whalernut posted 07-17-2002 08:22 PM ET (US)     Profile for whalernut  Send Email to whalernut     
If my 85h.p. Johnson ever goes down for the count, I think the Homelite/Bearcat is the route I will go, sounds like a great match for a `16 Hull. Jack.
Tom W Clark posted 07-17-2002 10:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
dwaldon,

I really like the idea of the Bearcat. The fact that they were owned by Dick Fisher makes them all the more attractive to me. I have heard comments about their lack of resistance to corrosion in salt water and general comments like BS's but what I've heard from those who actually own and run them is nothing but very positive.

A Li Volsi is one member of the FORUM who actually owns a Bearcat. In fact I think he owns three, and loves them.

For a very detailed account of the history of this motor, be sure to check out Scott Stewart's web site: http://hometown.aol.com/homelite55/index.html

RWM posted 07-17-2002 10:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for RWM  Send Email to RWM     
Has anyone actually bought a bearcat and put in on a 16/17 footer? For $1800 I'm tempted just for the hell of it...Bob M.
Bigshot posted 07-18-2002 09:33 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
I have a feeling it will be a love/hate relationship. My neighbor was always getting towed because it would not start, etc. Never had a major failure, just a tempermental POS. Maybe they got it right with the new electrical system or maybe his engine was just a POS. Not an easy engine to take a survey on. Al loves his and my neighbor hated his so that makes it 50/50. Hence a love/hate relationship.
JBCornwell posted 07-18-2002 11:34 AM ET (US)     Profile for JBCornwell  Send Email to JBCornwell     
I had a neighbor when I lived in Ft. Likkerdale who had a Bearcat 55 on a Menemsha. They bought the boat new with the Bearcat on it. It was about 10 or 11 years old at the time and they loved it.

I went canal and ICW cruising with them a few times and was favorably impressed.

Red sky at night. . .
JB :)

EddieS posted 07-18-2002 11:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for EddieS  Send Email to EddieS     
My 1966 Nausett originally had one, my father bought the boat new and said that the motor was tempermental and succomed to the elements by 1972. He did like the motor though!

Ed

A Li Volsi posted 07-19-2002 10:50 AM ET (US)     Profile for A Li Volsi  Send Email to A Li Volsi     
Like all things mechanical and old they do need to be tended to, like our BW'ers.
The overall design is straight foward.
If you can tune up a 1966 Chevy V-8, then you can repair almost anything on this engine.
There is an electronic ignition that is available that fits under the distrbutor cap and repalces the points and condenser, making starting easier.
If your into restoring an older BW'er,then
the only way to go is with a Dick Fischer Bearcat. You already own a one and only boat, the Whaler-why not have an original one only engine powering it!
Bigshot posted 07-19-2002 01:23 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
we are still at 50/50 here.....any other owners?
Hobie1981 posted 07-20-2002 10:49 PM ET (US)     Profile for Hobie1981  Send Email to Hobie1981     
Hi All: My 1969 Nauset was originally outfitted with a Bearcat 55. Her early years were spent oceanside (Cape Cod & So. Maine). Boat was moored during the boating season. Engine was tilted up when we remembered. Not a great engine from what I recall, but I understand those that used the motor in a non-salt H2O environment were very satisfied.

Bigshot: Thankx for your tips on the idle problems I was having on my Erude 55. Added "techron" to two tanks of gas. When those were consumed, I then did OMC "tune-up" to decarbonize the rascal. Changed plugs again (Denso) What a difference. Happy Rude.

:-)

Hobie

Bigshot posted 07-22-2002 10:12 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Does not take much to clog a carb....enjoy!
dwaldron posted 07-29-2002 08:41 AM ET (US)     Profile for dwaldron  Send Email to dwaldron     
I got the motor running on the 25th, and it ran great all weekend. Top speed for my 16'7" whaler was 22 MPH. I'm pretty happy!

Dave

Bigshot posted 07-29-2002 10:19 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
22?
dwaldron posted 07-29-2002 10:49 AM ET (US)     Profile for dwaldron  Send Email to dwaldron     
22, according to a Garmin Etrex Vista GPS
Tom W Clark posted 07-29-2002 11:31 AM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
dwaldron,

That motor should push a 16' Whaler to about 32 mph not 22 mph. Exactly what kind of boat it is on?

dwaldron posted 07-29-2002 03:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for dwaldron  Send Email to dwaldron     
The boat was is aaa 1970 16'7" hull, built as a Menensha. The cuddy cabin has been removed (previous owner) and a center console installed. I plan to upgrade the console to a Sakonnet. The boat and motor had been out of the water for about 4 years. Hopefully a little tuning up will produce more speed.

Dave

Tom W Clark posted 07-29-2002 04:31 PM ET (US)     Profile for Tom W Clark  Send Email to Tom W Clark     
The reason I asked is the weight. If your boat were a Menemshas that might explain some, but not all of the speed loss but if all it's got is a console in it now I would expect much more speed.

It may be the motor but if it is getting up to its suggested WOT rpm's then it might be the hull. Do you have a sense of whether or not there is a lot of water in the hull? Have you weighted it?

Could also be the prop. How is its condition?

It could also be a combination of several different factors but you should be able to do much better than 22 mph.

dwaldron posted 07-29-2002 04:46 PM ET (US)     Profile for dwaldron  Send Email to dwaldron     
Tom,

The hull looks good. I have not weighed it, but the interior gelcoat is amazingly clean, the topsides are clean, the bottom does have a number of coats of bottom paint. When I bought the boat it was outdoors but covered.
I don't know if there was water in the boat while it sat. It certainly does not appear that there was.
The tach has not been working, I will fix that next. I don't know what my rpms are. The prop looks fine, I will check it for size and pitch.

Thank you for you interest

Dave

Bigshot posted 07-30-2002 02:43 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Prop!
dwaldron posted 08-07-2002 04:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for dwaldron  Send Email to dwaldron     
I checked my GPS, it was set for knots not MPH. I was doing 22 knots about 25 MHP. hopefully new points and a tune up will get me to 30+. My tach is mot working so I don't know my WOT rpm.

Dave

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