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jimh posted 07-18-2002 07:00 PM ET (US)   Profile for jimh   Send Email to jimh  
Buried in the Mercury Marine website's horrorific structure is a link to an engine test report database.

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This would be the perfect place for Mercury to list the performance of all their engines on Boston Whaler boats.

At the least, we ought to find the performance of Boston Whaler's newest models (which are rigged and sold with Mercury engines) on this database.

At best, we ought to find the performance of Boston Whaler's classic boat hulls tested with modern Mercury engines in this database.

But, unfortunately, I don't find much information at all about Mercury outboards and Boston Whaler boats in this database. And there are really pathetically few tests for engines which are likely to be of interest to owners of Whalers thinking about repowering. For example, the 90-HP Mercury 4-stroke engine has only a single report.

For two companies that are "sisters" in the Brunswick family, this is really a missed opportunity at coordinated marketing. Management at Mercury should wake someone up and at least call Whaler to get the details of all their testing. I know that the factory has test reports of engine and propeller runs with their newer boats. You'd think that they'd want to include this information.

In contrast, the Yamaha website has an extensive listing of engine reports.

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You will notice that there is extensive coverage of hulls tested where the builder and Yamaha have a co-marketing arrangement. This makes perfect sense. It is excellent marketing of the Yamaha engines to prospective buyers.

Anybody agree with me on this?

half shell posted 07-18-2002 07:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for half shell  Send Email to half shell     
Yes I do agree.But then again Yamaha is afirst class operation with a first class dealer network and of course a world class product.I would expect no less from Yamaha.

However as far as Mercury goes........

lhg posted 07-18-2002 08:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
As far as Honda goes, I wonder how many years it will take them to break the Mercury/Yamaha joint venture market dominance and achieve at least 5% of the market share? They must be doing something wrong to have such a low sales volume relative to these two companies. Some here (not me) have said their 4-stroke technology is completely dated when compared with Mercury, Yamaha and Suzuki EFI systems. Are they still buying their lower units from Mercury?

Quit trolling the bait, and take your Honda sales pitch and Mercury bashing somewhere else and lets just talk Whalers here. We've burned out the engine brand stuff. The kind of engines we all run really doesn't matter, does it?

I think Jim was trying to get a discussion going on what BW and Mercury could do better in terms of positive data feedback to the consumer.

OutrageMan posted 07-18-2002 10:14 PM ET (US)     Profile for OutrageMan  Send Email to OutrageMan     
Um Larry...

I do not see a post regarding Honda. Maybe Jim removed it?

Brian

Lil Whaler Lover posted 07-18-2002 10:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for Lil Whaler Lover  Send Email to Lil Whaler Lover     
Glad to see this post on Mercury's Boathouse Reports. It reminds me that I have several (many?) old ones that I need to locate and send to Tom Clark for the CD-Rom project. Funny, but from what I can remember about them the performance figures reported throughout Continuous Wave consistantly exceed the results reported in the Boathouse Reports. Either our Whaler enthusiasts make their boats run better than the factory guys or Mrcury takes a conservative position on the performance of its engines.
lhg posted 07-18-2002 10:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
My guess would be that from a business perspective it makes sense to downplay performance characteristics. There are just so many variables in the combinations of engine/boat. People are always pleased when a product performs better than advertized, and always complain if it's worse. This way, they're safe from the underperformance type of claim.
half shell posted 07-19-2002 06:34 AM ET (US)     Profile for half shell  Send Email to half shell     
There was no post on Honda.I was commenting on Yamaha having a good operation.I guess I feel biased toward Yamaha and Honda because of the level of service Iget at the dealer.

I have had mercury and mercruiser products and probably had more problems with the dealer than the product it self.

I will say my 5 merc on my inflatable 1994 has been ok starts 1 st pull.

I feel the reason Honda is not seen on many transoms are as follows price,most are not willing to spend the extra at repower time.
Speed,usually with the weight you will go down 1 size(I would prefer the 90 but a bit to heavy for my liking on my montauk).Most buyers and dealers want to put max HP on the transom and the extra weight of Honda wont allow it.


In closing I apologize for my negative remarks on mercury however imho Ifeel Honda and Yamaha make a superior product.

I truly wish all owners of all brands the best of luck with their boat and motor combo and I hope many great times and memories.

sincerly Bob

Bigshot posted 07-19-2002 10:09 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Larry....most websites stink, BW's is about as pathetic as it gets. No reason to go on Mercury's site but I would not expect much more.

They did a shootout in Boating this month with the 225's Ficht, Yamaha 4s, Honda, Merc Optimax, and Merc 4s. The Merc & Yamaha were the slowest, The optimax was the worst gas mileage. The ficht was the fastest but the Honda was the quietest, 2nd fastest and best mpg....also the heaviest. After reading it I would probably go with the Merc 4s due to price & weight and it is 10db quieter than the cloned Yamaha....go figure.

dgp posted 07-19-2002 10:15 AM ET (US)     Profile for dgp  Send Email to dgp     
Jim, when I bought my Montauk / Mercury rig in Y2K, the dealer had a BW publication that listed performance results of various BW hulls with Mercury power and props. This document allowed me to know what kind of performance to expect prior to delivery. Certainly a good tool for the dealer and customer alike.
jimh posted 07-20-2002 01:09 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Too bad the information your dealer had about performance of Boston Whaler boats with Mercury engines wasn't available on the Mercury Marine website or the Boston Whaler website.

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