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billster9000 posted 08-09-2002 08:50 PM ET (US)   Profile for billster9000   Send Email to billster9000  
I have a 1969 whaler that used to have a 1983 25 hp Evinrude on it. The motor definately packed all the power we needed. However its ruined and we arent quite sure what to go with now. The place that we keep the boat is on saltwater and running water and electricity are impossible so we cant flush it or work on it. It is also in an area where a new motor could be stolen. So we're considering down sizing so that we can carry the motor off and bring it home to flush and keep safe, therefore a 15 would be more convenient. Also we are definately going to go with a foreign brand such as yamaha or tohatsu. I know that tohatsu makes an 18 but we'd rather get a yamaha 15 or 25. Is 15 hp enough to plane a 13 footer with two people and four tanks?, Is there a foreign brand that makes a 20? and where's a good place in florida to get a fairly new freshwater used yamaha?
browning20ga posted 08-09-2002 09:16 PM ET (US)     Profile for browning20ga  Send Email to browning20ga     
"billster9000" IMHO - If security is a big problem, I'd go with the motor that you can remove, none of your other criteria means anything if you go out one morning and your motor is gone. You can lock your motor. I got a lock at West Marine and it fit my 15hp Evenrude but wouldn't fit my new 25hp Honda.
Darrell
11 footer posted 08-09-2002 10:15 PM ET (US)     Profile for 11 footer  Send Email to 11 footer     
I don't think that puting a 15hp on 13'er
is the best idea. I have a 15hp on my boat. and i love it. but..... I go out by myself. and my whaler is only 11 feet. If a have a lot of people in my boat it will plane but the people must my siting in the right places. For the part when you want to move the outboard.........well a 15hp is about 90 pounds. u can carry it but it is not fun. and i dont know how u will get it on the boat if u keep u keep your boat in the water. remder that a 13 foot whaler is rated for a 40hp.


good luck and happy boating!!!!!!!!!!!

Eric posted 08-10-2002 02:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for Eric  Send Email to Eric     
This is a tough decision. The performance of a 13 with a 15 is going to be marginal, even without much weight. I had a 25 Evinrude on a 13 and it ran 30 on the GPS. However, getting ripped off is terrible, especially since they might just cut the transom off in order to get the motor. I'd go with the 25, chain the boat up, lock the motor, and then insure it (if you can get coverage).

Remember, you can't stop someone from stealing what they want, if they try hard enough they'll get it. They could steal the motor when the boat's locked in the garage. You've just got to make it too difficult to bother.

billster9000 posted 08-11-2002 09:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for billster9000  Send Email to billster9000     
There's a few things I should have added. The boat is on a floating dock and we keep the car about 60 feet away so as long as the motor isn't as heavy as the one we had on there it should be alright. Also, the old motor broke due to problems relating to the saltwater and the inability to flush it. That is our main Concern. As long as far as security, we've never had any problems it's just that we dont have and cant afford insurance on it and other people with nicer boats have had break ins. My only question now is if the 18 tohatsu would plane with a good speed and if tohatsu is a good company to go with.
Kelly posted 08-11-2002 09:47 PM ET (US)     Profile for Kelly  Send Email to Kelly     
I have a 15 hp Nissan, same as Tohatsu, that I use on my 13'. It runs well and planes well. I have never checked the speed, but even with wife and two small children, it zips right along. There is a dealer that I stop by from time to time in an area of Georgia that has quite a few rivers, and he says that those guys like the Tohatsu becasue they are faster than the comparable hp from other manufacturers. He wasn't trying to sell me one, just talking about motors in general. Kelly
buster1389 posted 08-11-2002 10:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for buster1389  Send Email to buster1389     
I recently replaced an 18hp nissan with a four stroke 15 hp yamaha. The nissan was much more powerful and was reliable for 10 years without any service other than changing the oil in the gearcase and replaceing the water pump. I would definately look into the nissan. Its a great motor.
jameso posted 08-12-2002 09:23 AM ET (US)     Profile for jameso  Send Email to jameso     
Kelly,
Was that dealer in Valdosta?
Curious, Jim Armstrong
Kelly posted 08-12-2002 09:37 AM ET (US)     Profile for Kelly  Send Email to Kelly     
Jim,
No, Dublin Marine, in Dublin, GA. I have talked with them a couple of times. Seem like nice people. They carry Mercury, Yamaha, Tohatsu, Carolina Skiff, and some aluminum boats.
Kelly
Bigshot posted 08-12-2002 01:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
My opinion is get the 25, get a used one and lock it up. Getting 20 years from an engine is damn good, and I doubt flushing would have extended it's life much longer. Anything over a 6hp is a bitch to carry and if you think having one stolen stinks, wait till you drop one off the back of the boat.
billster9000 posted 08-13-2002 09:27 AM ET (US)     Profile for billster9000  Send Email to billster9000     
Thanks
soggy bottom boy posted 08-14-2002 12:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for soggy bottom boy  Send Email to soggy bottom boy     
I agree with BigShot. Nothing more heart breaking than watching your outboard 'jump' off your transom and plunge to the bottom! Happened with an Evinrude 18 and a rental boat. Know have a 20 Johnson. Sounds like progess, but that 18 ran perfect.

Soggy.


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