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bocaspiff posted 08-21-2002 02:36 PM ET (US)   Profile for bocaspiff   Send Email to bocaspiff  
Which Whaler hulls have wood in the transom to mount properly placed trim tabs?
Dunk posted 08-22-2002 08:52 PM ET (US)     Profile for Dunk  Send Email to Dunk     
I've put them on all whalers from 16'7's up to 25's all different years. I've never had problem finding good wood to mount into.
jimh posted 08-22-2002 11:55 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
From the many discussion we have had about trim tabs, it is my understanding that as a general rule there is no wood in the Whaler transom except in the thickened area where the engine mounts. There may be other small segments of wood in some areas for mounting some accessories like the stern light, etc.

Poster Dunk is the first (to my knowledge) to report finding wood embedded in the transom where the tabs attach, as his comment implies.

kingfish posted 08-23-2002 09:43 AM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
As JimH states, I can attest that my 1992 Outrage 22 does not have wood in the transom outside of the thickened area where the motor(s) mount(s).

Chuck Bennet at BW indicated to me at the time that at least so far as 22's are concerned, that was the case across the board, with the exception of the CPD models that had wood in the entire transom.

kingfish

bocaspiff posted 08-24-2002 06:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for bocaspiff  Send Email to bocaspiff     
After discussing some things with my father, the problems we had with the 17' Whaler's tabs were my fault for installing them wrong. The installations from Bennett, reccommend using a wood shim to make sure the tabs are mounted flush. I had them screwed straight into the transom without it. When the tabs were retracted all the way, it nearly pulled the tabs out of their mounting plates. Also,since I am 24, the 15 Whaler we had when I was 3, does't count as mine. My Dad also mentioned that the 15 (underpowered with a 55) would plane in its own length with the tabs down.
bocaspiff posted 08-26-2002 08:15 AM ET (US)     Profile for bocaspiff  Send Email to bocaspiff     
I just got an email from someone who was asking how the tabs were mounted into the foam. When mounting the tabs, use 5200 in the holes and use a wood shim as directed in the instructions for Bennett Tabs. There is a lot of pressure on the tabs whe they are used but the mounting hardware distributes the load very well.
Louie Kokinis posted 08-28-2002 01:01 PM ET (US)     Profile for Louie Kokinis    
I would NOT mount tabs on a Whaler if there is no backing available. My understanding is that only boats with factory-installed tabs got the backing (CPD or Factory ordered Outrages), which could possibly explain why Dunk found wood backing on his. The rest have nothing but a very thin layer of glass and foam, which is NOT strong enough to support the stress that Tabs will produce!

Having said that, Whalers up to and including 22ís really donít need tabs. I have them on mine, but only use them in certain sea states to soften the ride. The boat gets up on plane without them, and I always balance the load (or large passengers) vs using tabs.

IMHO I would leave the transom as is.

John DeAgro posted 09-05-2002 06:35 PM ET (US)     Profile for John DeAgro  Send Email to John DeAgro     
An option to traditional trim tabs is a product from Nauticus called Smart Tabs. Since they are self adjusting by use of a nitrogen gas actuator the stresses on the transom are limited to the actuator load ( typically 40 to 60 lbs). See an article in April 2002 Boating World for some very positive comments on the performance and ride of a Whaler they tested.

John

Bigshot posted 09-06-2002 10:40 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
I can not see why anyone would need tabs on a Montauk and down. I can make that Montauk do ANYTHING I want.....even beg......with just the trim of the engine. Outrages....I can see the need but not necessary if you do not have a T-Top. I think you can do whatever you want with weight placement. T-Tops can effect the boat depending on which way the wind blows and therefore tabs REALLY help.

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