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JimU posted 09-11-2002 04:57 PM ET (US)   Profile for JimU   Send Email to JimU  
I just closed a deal on a 1984 22 outrage with 1996 225 Johnson Ocean Runner. A few questions.The engine is a counter rotating engine. (1)Will it perform any differently than a clock wise engine? (2)What is different about ocean runner series from non ocean runners? (3)What kind of WOT performance shoould I expect? I've seen some of thse engines with doelfins on them (4)Recommended or not? Thanks JIM
Bigshot posted 09-11-2002 06:29 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
No effect on performance except torque steer is reversed. Also you will turn beeter in reverse one way than the other. This is with regular engines too but yours will be reversed. Props are different but also cheaper because they can't sell them:) Rumors are lower units don't last as long but Like I said....rumors. Ocean runners have more stainless steel than non which in 96 was the venom which only came in short shaft I believe.
David Ratusnik posted 09-11-2002 08:20 PM ET (US)     Profile for David Ratusnik  Send Email to David Ratusnik     
JimU- I run an '86 OR with a Johnson 225 on a bracket- effectively 25'. Forget the hydrofoil- set it up with Bennett or Lynco trim tabs. Mine, tabs down all the way, slam the 225 down, up out of the hole, trim out the tabs, then engine and pooooof you're doing about 50 mph. David
kingfish posted 09-11-2002 09:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Congratulations, JimU!

As Louis Kokinis told me when i bought my 22 in the Spring of '99, you've just bought the best boat on the water.

Mine is a '92 and it has a '92 Evinrude 225. The first thing I did was install Doelfins because I had liked what Doelfins had done for my Montauks so much. Back then with the Doelfins (which had to be out of the water at WOT) and before I installed my arch, it would do an honest 53 mph with three adults and 1/2 tank of gas. The Doelfin helped to keep on plane at slower speeds, but with the power a 225 has, probably isn't necessary to help pop it up onto plane.

I have Lenco trim tabs now and I think they are the cats meow.

kingfish

Louie Kokinis posted 09-12-2002 12:44 AM ET (US)     Profile for Louie Kokinis    
JimU,

You will NEVER regret buying this boat. It will impress you more each and every time you use it!

I would wait awhile before adding a Doelfin and or Trim Tabs. IMO the boat doesnít need either. Having said that, I have tabs on mine, and do use them to soften the ride in some sea-states, but never to help the boat get on plane.

Depending on load, fuel, and assuming you have a stainless prop the boat should pop out of the water in less than 3 seconds (thatís with the engine trimmed in Ė no tabs) and stay on plane down to 12 Ė 13 mph (again with no tabs). Your WOT should be high 40ís to mid 50ís depending again on load, prop, and drag (ie t-top).

I find that a 1-foot chop gives me the best top end, but have always been more concerned about the boats performance between 20 and 40. Your little boat will take rough water like a much larger boat, while accelerating and handling like a much smaller one. This is what Iíve always loved about this hull, and IMO where our boats shine!

Congratulations

Louie

John from Madison CT posted 09-12-2002 08:57 AM ET (US)     Profile for John from Madison CT  Send Email to John from Madison CT     
You guys have heard me holler, scream and brag about how much I love my 22' Outrage (w/WD). My infatuation continues at the 3 month mark of ownership.

This is a great boat. The WhalerDrive makes it even better. My 250hp Yamaha pops her right on plan, and there is only a hint of port lean due to prop torque.

I took her offshore fishing last Saturday. Was over 30 miles out, and did 170 miles total for the day.

It was suggested to put a hyrafoil or similar on this rig, but I really really do not think it's necessary. I would try it, buy having 4 holes in my lowerunit rubs me the wrong way.

Anyway, congrats. and enjoy.

John from Madison, CT

larimore posted 09-12-2002 02:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for larimore  Send Email to larimore     
If you are having a rough ride or porposing, get Bennett trim tabs... Best thing I did for my 22OR, no problems with them in 10 years.

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