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homey posted 09-13-2002 09:46 PM ET (US)
Any bad experiences with suzuki's? Warranty or service? thanks.
Jay A posted 09-14-2002 05:19 PM ET (US)
I've had only one problem with my 200hp. This is my second season with it and three weeks ago while 3 miles offshore the engine started to "surge" when throttled above 3000rpm's. I called the dealer and he said he would send someone to look at it during the week.He never showed!In the meantime I checked out the sparkplugs which were fine and the water/fuel seperator...no water found. But I noticed the primer bulb "soft". I opened the fuel cap and put it back on and the engine has been running fine eversince. So far this season I've burned only 4 1/2 gallons of oil! This was the 1st time I had the engine cover off and it looks showroom new! Another nice feature(2 strokes anyway)The oil resivior is in the engine,door and cap similar in what you would have in your car sits atop the engine. This eliminates the need for an external tank and doesn't have a pump.(Less could go wrong!)I dock my boat in New England (saltwater)all season long and all external surfaces and hardware still look new!
homey posted 09-14-2002 11:50 PM ET (US)
Thanks for the reply.
jimh posted 09-16-2002 08:50 AM ET (US)
I am surprised at the response you have received with this. Perhaps I should say the lack of response.
You can interpret this either as an endorsement, that is, no one had any problems to report, or as an indication of market share--not too many owners out there.
My experience with SUZUKI outboards is based on just a few encounters with owners, all of whom had the 70-HP engine on a Montauk. All were very pleased.
SUZUKI was first with 4-stroke and EFI. They also have at times offered a very aggressive warranty program (up to six years, I think).
The downside is limited dealer network and support.
Whaler Proud posted 09-16-2002 10:07 AM ET (US)
Love my Suzuki 2 stroke 90. Quiet, good fuel economy and runs well. Price was right for me too.
I agree with Jim on the dealer network, but I am fortunate in having 2 dealers within 20 miles of my home. Since I don't venture much farther than that when I take the boat out, it works for me.
Bigshot posted 09-16-2002 12:47 PM ET (US)
I had a 1981 140hp, a 1990 9.9hp and a 199 70hp. all have been flawless, never a hiccup, never a breakdown. my buddy has 3 of them currently and smae experience and he has about 500 hours combined. If you have a dealer, great. Now that Johnson is basically Suzuki....even better.
goldstem posted 09-17-2002 10:05 AM ET (US)
my yacht club is finishing it's first season with a 50hp 4 stroke efi suzuki I bought for our ancient 16 foot rescue boat. a wonderful motor.
homey posted 09-20-2002 01:30 PM ET (US)
Thanks for all the replies! I'm seriously considering on repowering my 25'Outrage with the twin 140 4-strokes.($18,000+tax installed)
My 1989 Johnsons 150's are just not doing so well...
Bigshot posted 09-20-2002 01:46 PM ET (US)
Great setup....try getting him down some on price. I can probably get you those engines for about $15k+ shipping and NO tax. So with controls and such, if you could shave about $500, you'll be about even.
David Jenkins posted 09-20-2002 01:57 PM ET (US)
I have a friend who wants to repower his Montauk with the Suzuki 140 4-stroke. I have told him that he does not need this much power, but he is determined to do it. Bigshot, are you saying that you know a place in Florida that can ship one engine to Texas with no tax for $7500 plus shipping, controls and prop?
Bigshot posted 09-20-2002 02:10 PM ET (US)
I will double check but last I heard it was about $73-7500 with no controls...alum prop is standard. I can get or you can find controls on E-Bay for under $200. I am double checking....will post as soon as he calls me back. When I was looking at $115's for $6700 he said $600-800 more for a 140. That was also when they were offering $300 rebates or 3 years more warranty. I'll see what is the deal. My bud said 2 tachs, speedo, keyswitch and controls were like $400?
Bigshot posted 09-20-2002 02:12 PM ET (US)
Check my post in marketplace....holy cow!
Bert22 posted 09-26-2002 10:00 PM ET (US)
I have had twin Suzuki DT225's on a boat since '94. I ran them over a sand bar and the upper cylinder overheated on them. The alarm never went off and they self destructed . Suzuki rebuilt them (under warrenty,knowing I hit a sand bar) and they have been trouble free ever since. I would recomend them and get them again myself.They are very reliable Good luck
Capt_Tidy posted 09-27-2002 11:27 AM ET (US)
I've looked into the Zuki 140 4 stroke for my 25'O and I tend to think they are a little $.
Around my local area in Southern California they are going for about $10k plus tax which is a silly price. $7,500 seems about right for these size. At $10k they are way down on my list.
You guy in Florida get all the deals. Live it up.
Bigshot posted 09-27-2002 01:50 PM ET (US)
No we don't....you just have to shop. With $7k and $2-300 for shipping....why not import? They made it all the way from Japan....couple thousand more miles aint gonna hurt them.
david whaler posted 10-01-2002 01:57 AM ET (US)
Without a doubt Suzuki Marine imports an exellent outboard motor. They have been in vangaurd when in comes to design inovation. They offer a great warranty as compaired to the compition. Prices do vary for geographical location. Fl does seem to have the best prices. this is in part due to the fact the the Suzuki dlr network is so strong in Fl, and compition encourages better prices. The most important thing for any brand purchace is to have professional and efficent dealer in the area you living in. A company's o/b is only as good as the support the dealer can provide to the customer. This opinion comes from my experences working for a major marine o/b maker, in the service and warranty dept.Get that Whaler powered up and hit the water with pride!
Jinfun posted 10-01-2002 09:19 AM ET (US)
I had a 40hp Suzuki (bought new in 1992) on my 13 Whaler for about 6 years until I sold it. The engine was flawless and always ran well.

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Author	Topic: Suzuki, good or bad?
homey	posted 09-13-2002 09:46 PM ET (US) Any bad experiences with suzuki's? Warranty or service? thanks.
Jay A	posted 09-14-2002 05:19 PM ET (US) I've had only one problem with my 200hp. This is my second season with it and three weeks ago while 3 miles offshore the engine started to "surge" when throttled above 3000rpm's. I called the dealer and he said he would send someone to look at it during the week.He never showed!In the meantime I checked out the sparkplugs which were fine and the water/fuel seperator...no water found. But I noticed the primer bulb "soft". I opened the fuel cap and put it back on and the engine has been running fine eversince. So far this season I've burned only 4 1/2 gallons of oil! This was the 1st time I had the engine cover off and it looks showroom new! Another nice feature(2 strokes anyway)The oil resivior is in the engine,door and cap similar in what you would have in your car sits atop the engine. This eliminates the need for an external tank and doesn't have a pump.(Less could go wrong!)I dock my boat in New England (saltwater)all season long and all external surfaces and hardware still look new!
homey	posted 09-14-2002 11:50 PM ET (US) Thanks for the reply.
jimh	posted 09-16-2002 08:50 AM ET (US) I am surprised at the response you have received with this. Perhaps I should say the lack of response. You can interpret this either as an endorsement, that is, no one had any problems to report, or as an indication of market share--not too many owners out there. My experience with SUZUKI outboards is based on just a few encounters with owners, all of whom had the 70-HP engine on a Montauk. All were very pleased. SUZUKI was first with 4-stroke and EFI. They also have at times offered a very aggressive warranty program (up to six years, I think). The downside is limited dealer network and support.
Whaler Proud	posted 09-16-2002 10:07 AM ET (US) Love my Suzuki 2 stroke 90. Quiet, good fuel economy and runs well. Price was right for me too. I agree with Jim on the dealer network, but I am fortunate in having 2 dealers within 20 miles of my home. Since I don't venture much farther than that when I take the boat out, it works for me.
Bigshot	posted 09-16-2002 12:47 PM ET (US) I had a 1981 140hp, a 1990 9.9hp and a 199 70hp. all have been flawless, never a hiccup, never a breakdown. my buddy has 3 of them currently and smae experience and he has about 500 hours combined. If you have a dealer, great. Now that Johnson is basically Suzuki....even better.
goldstem	posted 09-17-2002 10:05 AM ET (US) my yacht club is finishing it's first season with a 50hp 4 stroke efi suzuki I bought for our ancient 16 foot rescue boat. a wonderful motor.
homey	posted 09-20-2002 01:30 PM ET (US) Thanks for all the replies! I'm seriously considering on repowering my 25'Outrage with the twin 140 4-strokes.($18,000+tax installed) My 1989 Johnsons 150's are just not doing so well...
Bigshot	posted 09-20-2002 01:46 PM ET (US) Great setup....try getting him down some on price. I can probably get you those engines for about $15k+ shipping and NO tax. So with controls and such, if you could shave about $500, you'll be about even.
David Jenkins	posted 09-20-2002 01:57 PM ET (US) I have a friend who wants to repower his Montauk with the Suzuki 140 4-stroke. I have told him that he does not need this much power, but he is determined to do it. Bigshot, are you saying that you know a place in Florida that can ship one engine to Texas with no tax for $7500 plus shipping, controls and prop?
Bigshot	posted 09-20-2002 02:10 PM ET (US) I will double check but last I heard it was about $73-7500 with no controls...alum prop is standard. I can get or you can find controls on E-Bay for under $200. I am double checking....will post as soon as he calls me back. When I was looking at $115's for $6700 he said $600-800 more for a 140. That was also when they were offering $300 rebates or 3 years more warranty. I'll see what is the deal. My bud said 2 tachs, speedo, keyswitch and controls were like $400?
Bigshot	posted 09-20-2002 02:12 PM ET (US) Check my post in marketplace....holy cow!
Bert22	posted 09-26-2002 10:00 PM ET (US) I have had twin Suzuki DT225's on a boat since '94. I ran them over a sand bar and the upper cylinder overheated on them. The alarm never went off and they self destructed . Suzuki rebuilt them (under warrenty,knowing I hit a sand bar) and they have been trouble free ever since. I would recomend them and get them again myself.They are very reliable Good luck
Capt_Tidy	posted 09-27-2002 11:27 AM ET (US) I've looked into the Zuki 140 4 stroke for my 25'O and I tend to think they are a little $. Around my local area in Southern California they are going for about $10k plus tax which is a silly price. $7,500 seems about right for these size. At $10k they are way down on my list. You guy in Florida get all the deals. Live it up.
Bigshot	posted 09-27-2002 01:50 PM ET (US) No we don't....you just have to shop. With $7k and $2-300 for shipping....why not import? They made it all the way from Japan....couple thousand more miles aint gonna hurt them.
david whaler	posted 10-01-2002 01:57 AM ET (US) Without a doubt Suzuki Marine imports an exellent outboard motor. They have been in vangaurd when in comes to design inovation. They offer a great warranty as compaired to the compition. Prices do vary for geographical location. Fl does seem to have the best prices. this is in part due to the fact the the Suzuki dlr network is so strong in Fl, and compition encourages better prices. The most important thing for any brand purchace is to have professional and efficent dealer in the area you living in. A company's o/b is only as good as the support the dealer can provide to the customer. This opinion comes from my experences working for a major marine o/b maker, in the service and warranty dept.Get that Whaler powered up and hit the water with pride!
Jinfun	posted 10-01-2002 09:19 AM ET (US) I had a 40hp Suzuki (bought new in 1992) on my 13 Whaler for about 6 years until I sold it. The engine was flawless and always ran well.