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Mark D posted 09-30-2002 06:49 AM ET (US)   Profile for Mark D  
What is the best 2 stroke Oil (non synthetic)on the market?
JBCornwell posted 09-30-2002 07:53 AM ET (US)     Profile for JBCornwell  Send Email to JBCornwell     
You will get a lot of opinions on this, Mark.

My opinion is that Wal-Mart's SuperTech, bottled by Pennzoil, is the best value in TCW-3 oils. I also have the opinion that "best" is an illusion created by marketeers.

For my air cooled 2 strokes, I use Poulan Chainsaw oil. TCW-3 oils are not suitable for air cooled engines which run at much higher temps.

Red sky at night. . .
JB :)

Mark D posted 09-30-2002 07:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for Mark D    
What I mean is what is the best quality?
JBCornwell posted 09-30-2002 09:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for JBCornwell  Send Email to JBCornwell     
Yes, Mark, I understood that. I guess I was too vague in my remark about illusion.

At least four companies offer plausible arguments as to why their TCW-3 oil is the "best". They are probably all wrong, but I don't think it matters.

I have seen no hard evidence that one quality TCW-3 oil is any "better" than another. If I had I would use it.

I have had personal experience that says that TCW-3 oil is better for water cooled 2 strokes than motor oil intended for 4 stroke engines, and that TCW-3 is not good for air cooled 2 strokes.

I recommend SuperTech based on excellent performance and value.

Now, as to the best boat to put it in, that's a Whaler, any Whaler, powered by a 2 stroke.

Red sky at night. . .
JB :)

kingfish posted 09-30-2002 09:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     
Mark, I understand where you're trying to go, but you can't get there from here. It's a question that can't be answered (although JB just did a job with it that few mortals could match, and I totally agree with him about the Wal-Mart SuperTech; it's what I use).

It's like asking a bunch of people a question like, "What is the best car?". You'll get every kind of answer, but the one that can be measured and proven, because the question was not specific enough.

"Quality", in this case, needs to be defined in some way(s) that would allow for objective measurement, or all you'll get is opinions and scwags (scientifically calculated wild-*ss guesses).

Ed Stone posted 09-30-2002 11:05 PM ET (US)     Profile for Ed Stone  Send Email to Ed Stone     
I would suggest pick your poison and try
to stay with the same oil.
From what I have read 60% of the 2-stroke
oils are base oils of about 20 weight.
Thats where things change,Everyone has
there own idea what protects their motors.
After the base oil then there is a heavier
oil called brightstock added and then
solvent is added to help the oil mix
thoroughly with gas,and dye is added,after that PIB is another additive for smoke
I would think the outboard builder
would do everything they could to
protect there motors.
I have also heard the Opti-oil does
not contain the solvent to help it
mix with oil because it is injected
straight into the cylinder.They said
without the solvent the oil burns a
tad bit cleaner.
Good luck!
Ed Stone
Mark D posted 10-02-2002 06:18 AM ET (US)     Profile for Mark D    
I should have looked at the Yamalube debate first.
chrisb posted 10-04-2002 04:10 PM ET (US)     Profile for chrisb  Send Email to chrisb     
Along those lines I was told yesterday that one should use only 87 or 89 octane. Has anyone else heard this?

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