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dyeomans posted 10-15-2002 04:10 PM ET (US)   Profile for dyeomans   Send Email to dyeomans  
[Comparison between a 2001 Honda 75-HP 4-stroke and a 2003 Yahama 90-HP 2-stroke.] Same money on new purchase. Please post any drouthers. (Got your's, bigfoot.) Thanks!
Bigshot posted 10-15-2002 04:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
PS guy in TN had 01 evinzukis 70hp 4 strokes for $4500 or $4900 or so. Look under 1979 Merc for sale post and ask John where and if he has more etc.
weekendwarrior posted 10-22-2002 06:13 PM ET (US)     Profile for weekendwarrior  Send Email to weekendwarrior     
If the Honda is new or like new then I say get the 4-stroke. Honda or Yamaha they're both good motors, but 4-stroke is definitely worth the extra cash. I've got a Honda 50 on my 17' montauk and I'm very happy with it, I'm never going back to 2-stroke.
baybug posted 10-24-2002 02:02 PM ET (US)     Profile for baybug  Send Email to baybug     
I have always had and loved Hondas on my sailboats, dinghy, and even my generator is a Honda. I just bought a 15 foot Edgewater with a 90 Yahama and I love it. It is a great motor! Not to take anything away from the Honda, but given the choice I would go for the extra HP and get the Yahama. No mater what kind of boat you have or your boating habits, it is always better to have more power.
jimh posted 10-30-2002 11:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
Is the Honda engine new or used? And if new, where has it been for two years?

A Coast Guard foam-collared boat we saw a few weeks ago in North Carolina was powered by twin Hondas. That seems like an endorsement.

What boat is this going on?

Bigshot posted 10-31-2002 10:38 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
That ribs me hard....our Coast guard.....US COAST GUARD running imported engines. They put Hondas on our Rib in NJ and next season they were back to Evinrudes(befor bankruptcy). Too many complaints about using foreign engines on US Coast Guard boats. But who the heck knows what kind of diesels they are running, etc.

Sorry for the rant!

johnnywhaler posted 10-31-2002 12:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for johnnywhaler  Send Email to johnnywhaler     
I say let the coast guard use what engines they want. Does someone have to die to protect some union workers' benifits.
thebone12 posted 10-31-2002 12:41 PM ET (US)     Profile for thebone12  Send Email to thebone12     
Our 22-foot foam RIB [Rigid-Inflatable-Boat} on LI [Long Island] runs 115-Hondas, the 27-foot safe boat runs 225 Optimaxs, the 21-foot Zodiac runs a single 130 Honda, the 41-UTB [41-foot Utility Boat] runs VT903 Cummins, and 47-MLB [47-foot Motor Lifeboat] runs DD6v92, the old 44-MLB [Motor Lifeboat] ran 6-53DD [Detroit Diesels]

The USCG boats RIBs used to have 135 Mercs on them but they had SO many problems they went to the Hondas.

[I tried to annotate all the acronyms that were used in this post; I hope I got them all right.--jimh]

John Bocskay posted 10-31-2002 10:26 PM ET (US)     Profile for John Bocskay  Send Email to John Bocskay     
I know in the past we used to bid for the coast guard contract's they'd give us the spec's and in most case's the lowest bidder would get the contract, Merc,Evin,Yamaha etc including installation, but now with all the confiscated boat's who knows?
dyeomans posted 11-01-2002 07:49 AM ET (US)     Profile for dyeomans  Send Email to dyeomans     
Honda is new. Boat is 1990 17 montuck.
dyeomans posted 11-01-2002 07:51 AM ET (US)     Profile for dyeomans  Send Email to dyeomans     
Jim dealer has honda engine. I am really shy of the weight.
dyeomans posted 11-01-2002 07:59 AM ET (US)     Profile for dyeomans  Send Email to dyeomans     
Son is in Coast Guard. Mississippi PSU gets
choice of engines as do other Port Security Units. $$ is a big factor. Word from wrench slinger is "go chop suey." This kid (21) has own lingo; cracks me up. Still shoping but closer. Local Suz 70hp 4stk 2002 dealer come in $200 less that yammie 90 hp 2003 2stk. Bigshot is very convincing but battery fumes in console bother me.
Bigshot posted 11-01-2002 10:45 AM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Battery fumes......Do you run without the caps on it? The console was designed to have a battery in it. Hence the ventilation doors, etc. If you are not comfy putting it there, don't. FYI-My Corvette(and all 68-82's) have the battery right behind the driver seat inside the car. Maybe that is why I am the way I am, sucking in too many battery fumes for last 12 years;)
dyeomans posted 11-01-2002 12:25 PM ET (US)     Profile for dyeomans  Send Email to dyeomans     
Battery in console confirmed as a go by dealer. Bigshot, thanks for the input. Dealer says he has three barreries in console of his 1990 montauk. i cannot remember is you told me which mounts holes you used for the 70 4stk suz.
Bigshot posted 11-01-2002 01:48 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
I have a maual jackplate and recommend one as well. Makes getting the right height real easy. Just keep going up an inch until you get too high. I am about 4+" off the transom and could go higher but am happy. I would do yours about 1.5-2" above the transom without the plate. Easy enough to adjust but jackplate is easier.
dyeomans posted 11-01-2002 02:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for dyeomans  Send Email to dyeomans     
I am in the dark about jack plate. It must allow you to get lower unit out of water. will it allow for trim in rough water. I assume it will increase speed. Never used one on boat before. thanks for the input.
What is the advantage. existing mounting hole could probalby be used? have 1988 suz 75hp oil inj. in case you did not recall engine on boat.
dyeomans posted 11-02-2002 01:04 PM ET (US)     Profile for dyeomans  Send Email to dyeomans     
I have found plenty on this subject. Now I know how to work it. Thanks for your help.

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