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Monnas Rock posted 12-23-2002 02:48 PM ET (US)
My recently aquired 22' Revenge WD came on a 7,000lb. E-Z-Loader, roller trailer. Aside from new brakes, this trailer hasn't got much going for it. Since I plan to tow this boat a lot, I want to put it on the right trailer. Galvenized, keel roller, tandem, loading guides, electric brakes (maybe disk). I checked out Trail-rite (good trailer but no keel rollers). Most others seem to be on the east coast or at least no western dealers. Has anyone found any good quality trailers, sold in the west? I've heard of a trailer from the Salt Lake City area thats supposed to be quite good
(Metal-Fab?), but they don't seem to have a web site (God I'm getting lazy, I want to do all my shopping on the net). With a Whaler Drive, do I want the trailer length to stop at the transom or extend out to include the bracket? Any info would help.
Merry Christmas All,
Gary
Dick posted 12-23-2002 05:16 PM ET (US)
Gary
Check with Mercer Marine in Bellevue WA. They are the distributor for Carnai Trailers (the old Calkins Co} just what you are looking for.
Talk to Mike Yochum, he's the expert.
Phone 1-800-423-1835
Fax 425-641-8579
e-mail info@mercermarine.com
Dick
andygere posted 12-23-2002 07:36 PM ET (US)
Gary,
I thought the Trailrite trailers looked pretty nice as well. It might be worth a call to see if they'll build you one with keel rollers. The frames and cross members seem like they could easily be adapted.
whalersman posted 12-23-2002 07:48 PM ET (US)
Monnas,
I have a Trail Rite catalog and they state that the Keel Rollers can be added as an option.. Also extra Bunks if needed. I believe they will build anything the way you want it.
I have owned an American Trailer, 1978, which is an exact duplicate of the Trail Rite as I believe it was made by one of the partners that split off from the Trail Rite company. My trailer, and a few other Trail Rite trailers I have seen under Whalers,have all had 3, 12"Keel Rollers and 4 Bunks.
I order all my parts from Trail Rite for my trailer and the company has been great.
1-800-443-2304 (usually busy)
714-556-4540
whalersman posted 12-23-2002 08:05 PM ET (US)
Monnas,
I believe I was wrong about the Keel Rollers being an option, I think they are included...
Here is their Web page on the 7,000 lb. Galvanized trailer.
www.trailrite.com/galv_-7000_tan.htm
Tom W Clark posted 12-24-2002 01:10 AM ET (US)
Gary,
The ideal trailer for your boat would be the King KBT4600 with the deletion of the secondary (inboard) bunks and the addition of double keel roller on each cross member. Stainless steel disc brakes are an option.
A 7000 pound trailer, be it gross vehicle weight (GVWR) or carrying capacity, is too big for your boat. Your boat (wet) would weigh maybe something over 4000 pounds.
www.kingtrailers.com
whalersman posted 12-24-2002 05:03 PM ET (US)
Monnas,
Tom is right about the you not needing the 7,000 Lb. trailer. I only gave you that link because that is what you had listed.
Here is a link from Trail-Rites page that shows a 5,000 lb... Obviously, they have different rated trailers on their Web Site.
I like the extra bunks. 2 long and 2 short on the bottom and 12" keel rollers on each cross frame. I also like the side bunks which is an option. For larger boats, definitely Stainless Steel disc brakes.
[urlwww.trailrite.com/galv_-5000_tnd.htm[/url]
triblet posted 12-24-2002 05:07 PM ET (US)
maybe: www.trailrite.com/galv_-5000_tnd.htm
Chuck
aubv posted 12-25-2002 08:45 AM ET (US)
Monnas Rock,
Why Galvanized?
I think any of the good trailer mfg.'s that build custom trailers should fit your bill. We purchased an aluminum trailer w/bunks, torsion axles, stainless steel disc brakes, Stotz keel rollers, all stainless hardware and PVC clad metal guide-ons for a 23'OR that weighs 5800 lb.. Cost was about $4k. The mfg. was in Fla. but this mfg. delivers any where in the US and Canada, so I'm sure there are others that do the same.
Just something to consider.
Monnas Rock posted 12-26-2002 01:14 PM ET (US)
Thanks Guys, I looked at a Trail-rite catalog and it didn't show what I was looking for so I ass-u-me-d. Guess I'll give them a call and see what they offer.
Tom, you'r right about the weight, I was quoting CGVW (boat with Merc.220 and Merc. 15, around 4,500lb wet + 1,300lb trailer + gear and all that "stuff" that my wife will, undoubtedly, sneak aboard) Anyway, I need a trailer capable of carring 5,000lbs. I'll check out King Trailers.
Dick, I'll check out Carnai Trailers but, I don't think I'm quite ready to make another run to Seattle. Maybe they have a Southwestern distributor.
aubv, I hadn't considered aluminium, how does it hold up after consistant salt-water dunking?
TRAFFICLAWYER posted 12-26-2002 03:21 PM ET (US)
aubv;
100% CORRECT, aluminum,tandem,disk brakes,guides and rollers up front, [no black rollers or stops and no v bunks] is the way to go and preferably torsion axles. I just ordered a magic trail triple axle.
Should outlast any galvanized with proper care!
Monnas Rock posted 12-26-2002 03:44 PM ET (US)
Traffic Lawyer,
tflyer posted 12-26-2002 03:47 PM ET (US)
Monnas: I second aubv's comments re. Aluminum trailers. I have two of them, a 10k tandem under my 25'Frontier, s/s discs w/torsion axles. It is used only in salt water. I also have the same builders trailer under my newly acuired Montauk. The big trailer still looks new. The little trailer has not been maintained as well and looks a little shabby, I'll clear that up! I carry a sprayer loaded with a Salt-Away solution and after each dunk they get sprayed at the ramp. Once home they get washed. You have to stay after them!...Tom
Monnas Rock posted 12-26-2002 03:50 PM ET (US)
Traffic Lawyer, I don't get it? Aluminum in salt water? all that comes to mind is corrosion and pits. Does paint over aluminum make that much difference. How does aluminum compare cost wise to galvanized? Besides weight, what other benefits does it offer?
Regards, Gary
Monnas Rock posted 12-26-2002 03:57 PM ET (US)
tflyer, Your post snuck in there while I was composing my questions to trafficlawyer. It addresses some of my questions but not my big one, why aluminum over galvanized? From your post it appears galvanized requires less care then aluminum.
Monnas Rock posted 12-26-2002 04:01 PM ET (US)
One more question tflyer. I just noticed, from your profile, that your from the west coast. Who is the manufacturer of your aluminum trailers? are they a west coast distributed product?
tflyer posted 12-26-2002 05:26 PM ET (US)
Monnas: I have been around Galv. trailers alot. The day you buy it, take a picture of it cause it's all down hill from there. The bunk supports rust out, how many Galv trailers have you seen with brushed on galvinized paint covering area's that have failed? They are considerably heavier, example: A 10k lb Pacific Galv. trailer is somewhere just over a ton, this from memory(?) My 10k lb Rolls Marine is about 1100 lbs. The cost for my trailer with all options including disk brakes, spare tire and even polished center line aluminum wheels was just about the same as the Pacific. The down side is the shipping from Fla. to the west coast, I seem to recall app. $1000. Both of my trailers are made in Plant City, Fla. By Dan Gallaghar of Rolls Marine ph# 1-813-764-0242, check him out! I like them. They tow beautifully and they look great. I'll be happy to send some photo's if interested...Tom
ps: I must also admit that I wanted something that was a little different, It always turns heads and draws comments, and certainly looks good with a nicly restored old Whaler aboard!
Monnas Rock posted 12-26-2002 05:58 PM ET (US)
tflyer, Ah Yes... something a little different. Not many Whalers in the Nevada desert. My Revenge turns heads everywhere it goes. Most people don't know a lot about them but they sure know they are something special. And a trailer that would elicit that same response...hmmm. Maybe thats part of what I don't like about the E-Z-Loader, besides the rollers and inferior quality, IT'S UGLY! Thanks for the information on the Rolls Marine trailer. I think I'll give them a call and ask for a brochure. Have a Happy New Year, Gary
tflyer posted 12-26-2002 08:10 PM ET (US)
Monnas: I have been around Galv. trailers alot. The day you buy it, take a picture of it cause it's all down hill from there. The bunk supports rust out, how many Galv trailers have you seen with brushed on galvinized paint covering area's that have failed? They are considerably heavier, example: A 10k lb Pacific Galv. trailer is somewhere just over a ton, this from memory(?) My 10k lb Rolls Marine is about 1100 lbs. The cost for my trailer with all options including disk brakes, spare tire and even polished center line aluminum wheels was just about the same as the Pacific. The down side is the shipping from Fla. to the west coast, I seem to recall app. $1000. Both of my trailers are made in Plant City, Fla. By Dan Gallaghar of Rolls Marine ph# 1-813-764-0242, check him out! I like them. They tow beautifully and they look great. I'll be happy to send some photo's if interested...Tom
ps: I must also admit that I wanted something that was a little different, It always turns heads and draws comments, and certainly looks good with a nicly restored old Whaler aboard!

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Author	Topic: Need the RIGHT trailer, I've already got the WRONG one
Monnas Rock	posted 12-23-2002 02:48 PM ET (US) My recently aquired 22' Revenge WD came on a 7,000lb. E-Z-Loader, roller trailer. Aside from new brakes, this trailer hasn't got much going for it. Since I plan to tow this boat a lot, I want to put it on the right trailer. Galvenized, keel roller, tandem, loading guides, electric brakes (maybe disk). I checked out Trail-rite (good trailer but no keel rollers). Most others seem to be on the east coast or at least no western dealers. Has anyone found any good quality trailers, sold in the west? I've heard of a trailer from the Salt Lake City area thats supposed to be quite good (Metal-Fab?), but they don't seem to have a web site (God I'm getting lazy, I want to do all my shopping on the net). With a Whaler Drive, do I want the trailer length to stop at the transom or extend out to include the bracket? Any info would help. Merry Christmas All, Gary
Dick	posted 12-23-2002 05:16 PM ET (US) Gary Check with Mercer Marine in Bellevue WA. They are the distributor for Carnai Trailers (the old Calkins Co} just what you are looking for. Talk to Mike Yochum, he's the expert. Phone 1-800-423-1835 Fax 425-641-8579 e-mail info@mercermarine.com Dick
andygere	posted 12-23-2002 07:36 PM ET (US) Gary, I thought the Trailrite trailers looked pretty nice as well. It might be worth a call to see if they'll build you one with keel rollers. The frames and cross members seem like they could easily be adapted.
whalersman	posted 12-23-2002 07:48 PM ET (US) Monnas, I have a Trail Rite catalog and they state that the Keel Rollers can be added as an option.. Also extra Bunks if needed. I believe they will build anything the way you want it. I have owned an American Trailer, 1978, which is an exact duplicate of the Trail Rite as I believe it was made by one of the partners that split off from the Trail Rite company. My trailer, and a few other Trail Rite trailers I have seen under Whalers,have all had 3, 12"Keel Rollers and 4 Bunks. I order all my parts from Trail Rite for my trailer and the company has been great. 1-800-443-2304 (usually busy) 714-556-4540
whalersman	posted 12-23-2002 08:05 PM ET (US) Monnas, I believe I was wrong about the Keel Rollers being an option, I think they are included... Here is their Web page on the 7,000 lb. Galvanized trailer. www.trailrite.com/galv_-7000_tan.htm
Tom W Clark	posted 12-24-2002 01:10 AM ET (US) Gary, The ideal trailer for your boat would be the King KBT4600 with the deletion of the secondary (inboard) bunks and the addition of double keel roller on each cross member. Stainless steel disc brakes are an option. A 7000 pound trailer, be it gross vehicle weight (GVWR) or carrying capacity, is too big for your boat. Your boat (wet) would weigh maybe something over 4000 pounds. www.kingtrailers.com
whalersman	posted 12-24-2002 05:03 PM ET (US) Monnas, Tom is right about the you not needing the 7,000 Lb. trailer. I only gave you that link because that is what you had listed. Here is a link from Trail-Rites page that shows a 5,000 lb... Obviously, they have different rated trailers on their Web Site. I like the extra bunks. 2 long and 2 short on the bottom and 12" keel rollers on each cross frame. I also like the side bunks which is an option. For larger boats, definitely Stainless Steel disc brakes. [urlwww.trailrite.com/galv_-5000_tnd.htm[/url]
triblet	posted 12-24-2002 05:07 PM ET (US) maybe: www.trailrite.com/galv_-5000_tnd.htm Chuck
aubv	posted 12-25-2002 08:45 AM ET (US) Monnas Rock, Why Galvanized? I think any of the good trailer mfg.'s that build custom trailers should fit your bill. We purchased an aluminum trailer w/bunks, torsion axles, stainless steel disc brakes, Stotz keel rollers, all stainless hardware and PVC clad metal guide-ons for a 23'OR that weighs 5800 lb.. Cost was about $4k. The mfg. was in Fla. but this mfg. delivers any where in the US and Canada, so I'm sure there are others that do the same. Just something to consider.
Monnas Rock	posted 12-26-2002 01:14 PM ET (US) Thanks Guys, I looked at a Trail-rite catalog and it didn't show what I was looking for so I ass-u-me-d. Guess I'll give them a call and see what they offer. Tom, you'r right about the weight, I was quoting CGVW (boat with Merc.220 and Merc. 15, around 4,500lb wet + 1,300lb trailer + gear and all that "stuff" that my wife will, undoubtedly, sneak aboard) Anyway, I need a trailer capable of carring 5,000lbs. I'll check out King Trailers. Dick, I'll check out Carnai Trailers but, I don't think I'm quite ready to make another run to Seattle. Maybe they have a Southwestern distributor. aubv, I hadn't considered aluminium, how does it hold up after consistant salt-water dunking?
TRAFFICLAWYER	posted 12-26-2002 03:21 PM ET (US) aubv; 100% CORRECT, aluminum,tandem,disk brakes,guides and rollers up front, [no black rollers or stops and no v bunks] is the way to go and preferably torsion axles. I just ordered a magic trail triple axle. Should outlast any galvanized with proper care!
Monnas Rock	posted 12-26-2002 03:44 PM ET (US) Traffic Lawyer,
tflyer	posted 12-26-2002 03:47 PM ET (US) Monnas: I second aubv's comments re. Aluminum trailers. I have two of them, a 10k tandem under my 25'Frontier, s/s discs w/torsion axles. It is used only in salt water. I also have the same builders trailer under my newly acuired Montauk. The big trailer still looks new. The little trailer has not been maintained as well and looks a little shabby, I'll clear that up! I carry a sprayer loaded with a Salt-Away solution and after each dunk they get sprayed at the ramp. Once home they get washed. You have to stay after them!...Tom
Monnas Rock	posted 12-26-2002 03:50 PM ET (US) Traffic Lawyer, I don't get it? Aluminum in salt water? all that comes to mind is corrosion and pits. Does paint over aluminum make that much difference. How does aluminum compare cost wise to galvanized? Besides weight, what other benefits does it offer? Regards, Gary
Monnas Rock	posted 12-26-2002 03:57 PM ET (US) tflyer, Your post snuck in there while I was composing my questions to trafficlawyer. It addresses some of my questions but not my big one, why aluminum over galvanized? From your post it appears galvanized requires less care then aluminum.
Monnas Rock	posted 12-26-2002 04:01 PM ET (US) One more question tflyer. I just noticed, from your profile, that your from the west coast. Who is the manufacturer of your aluminum trailers? are they a west coast distributed product?
tflyer	posted 12-26-2002 05:26 PM ET (US) Monnas: I have been around Galv. trailers alot. The day you buy it, take a picture of it cause it's all down hill from there. The bunk supports rust out, how many Galv trailers have you seen with brushed on galvinized paint covering area's that have failed? They are considerably heavier, example: A 10k lb Pacific Galv. trailer is somewhere just over a ton, this from memory(?) My 10k lb Rolls Marine is about 1100 lbs. The cost for my trailer with all options including disk brakes, spare tire and even polished center line aluminum wheels was just about the same as the Pacific. The down side is the shipping from Fla. to the west coast, I seem to recall app. $1000. Both of my trailers are made in Plant City, Fla. By Dan Gallaghar of Rolls Marine ph# 1-813-764-0242, check him out! I like them. They tow beautifully and they look great. I'll be happy to send some photo's if interested...Tom ps: I must also admit that I wanted something that was a little different, It always turns heads and draws comments, and certainly looks good with a nicly restored old Whaler aboard!
Monnas Rock	posted 12-26-2002 05:58 PM ET (US) tflyer, Ah Yes... something a little different. Not many Whalers in the Nevada desert. My Revenge turns heads everywhere it goes. Most people don't know a lot about them but they sure know they are something special. And a trailer that would elicit that same response...hmmm. Maybe thats part of what I don't like about the E-Z-Loader, besides the rollers and inferior quality, IT'S UGLY! Thanks for the information on the Rolls Marine trailer. I think I'll give them a call and ask for a brochure. Have a Happy New Year, Gary
tflyer	posted 12-26-2002 08:10 PM ET (US) Monnas: I have been around Galv. trailers alot. The day you buy it, take a picture of it cause it's all down hill from there. The bunk supports rust out, how many Galv trailers have you seen with brushed on galvinized paint covering area's that have failed? They are considerably heavier, example: A 10k lb Pacific Galv. trailer is somewhere just over a ton, this from memory(?) My 10k lb Rolls Marine is about 1100 lbs. The cost for my trailer with all options including disk brakes, spare tire and even polished center line aluminum wheels was just about the same as the Pacific. The down side is the shipping from Fla. to the west coast, I seem to recall app. $1000. Both of my trailers are made in Plant City, Fla. By Dan Gallaghar of Rolls Marine ph# 1-813-764-0242, check him out! I like them. They tow beautifully and they look great. I'll be happy to send some photo's if interested...Tom ps: I must also admit that I wanted something that was a little different, It always turns heads and draws comments, and certainly looks good with a nicly restored old Whaler aboard!