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darryl posted 01-07-2003 06:11 PM ET (US)   Profile for darryl   Send Email to darryl  
Went to check out a new trailer.was told that the 18ft was more than 1250lbs.total wt.exceeded 2999lbs and had to get brakes and it was good idea to get a tandem instead of a single.was mention that there was alot of problems with having too lite of a trailer. Any feedback? Total wt.was motor,gas,trailer.and everything extra. thanks for the help
JBCornwell posted 01-07-2003 07:21 PM ET (US)     Profile for JBCornwell  Send Email to JBCornwell     
Hi, Darryl.

Someone either hasn't a clue or is willing to lie to sell a bigger trailer with brakes.

The 80s OR-18s weigh 1250 without power, controls, etc.

With a 400+lb engine, controls, fishing gear, full fuel, etc. It wont top 2200lb.

I have towed OR-18s several thousand miles on single axle trailers (no brakes) rated for 2400lb.

Go see a different dealer.

Red sky at night. . .
JB

Peter posted 01-07-2003 07:36 PM ET (US)     Profile for Peter  Send Email to Peter     
The weight of an 18 Outrage, motor and full tank of gas is approximately 2050 lbs. Throw in 100 lbs of gear and a trailer that weighs approximately 600 lbs and the maximum towing load on the vehicle is about 2800lbs.

If you do a lot of towing then a dual axle trailer would be better because it reduces the trailer swaying behind your tow vehicle. However, a dual axle trailer isn't necessary to carry the load of the 18 Outrage. Brakes may be desirable but I believe they are not necessary in most states for trailered loads under 3000 lbs.

I trailered an 18 Outrage on a 2900lb rated Cox single axle keel roller bunk trailer with no brakes and had no difficulties.

Fishcop posted 01-07-2003 07:37 PM ET (US)     Profile for Fishcop  Send Email to Fishcop     
darryl,
Try www.dhmenterprises.com in Sacramento.
On line price quote and nice product.
Pacific also makes a nice trailer in Freemont.
Andy.
gvisko posted 01-07-2003 08:09 PM ET (US)     Profile for gvisko  Send Email to gvisko     
I have 83 outrage with 150hp . I tow it with a single axle caukin trailer. on the
back of my ford van E350 or my wifes ML320
mercedes and we dont even know its back there. hope this helps

george visko

Gep posted 01-08-2003 08:07 AM ET (US)     Profile for Gep  Send Email to Gep     
Darryl,
I weighed my (JB's old) 1981 18' Outrage this fall on my way to drop it off at work to do my winter refurb.
I stripped everything out of the boat except for the motor('92 Yammie 130), gas tank, deck cover and of course, the trailer.
The weight was 2320 lbs.
Hope this helps.
Mike
kamml posted 01-08-2003 07:19 PM ET (US)     Profile for kamml  Send Email to kamml     
The need for trailer brakes on a new trailer purchase to me is almost a no-brainer. Of course get the brakes. The trailer disk brakes packages with naval brass rotors and stainless calibers work great, don't corrode in salt water and require minimal maintenance during normal operation. I sometimes think my truck stops quicker when towing the Montauk than without. (it probably doesn't, but when the trailer brakes surge on the speed drops fast). On a new purchase the cost is low and you just might be glad you have them someday if you are ever in a panic stop. Ken
jimh posted 01-08-2003 09:44 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
The true weight of an 18-OUTRAGE is about 1,250 pounds according to factory specifications. That is the weight of the hull, without engine, fuel, gear, etc.

What is the dispute?

FISHNFF posted 01-10-2003 02:14 AM ET (US)     Profile for FISHNFF  Send Email to FISHNFF     
I find it very interesting that a boat 2 feet longer, wider, deeper than a Classic Montauk only weighs 300 lbs more, while the new Montauk 170 weighs much more. I figure a rigged 18 would be 1250(hull) + 450(motor+prop+cables+fluid) + 372(fuel 62x6) + 100(batteries) + 150(anchor+gear+lead) comes to 2322lbs. Single axle should be fine.

My 17 Alert going on a tuna trip is 1100(commercial hull+console) + 410(motor+prop+fluids+cables) + 306(fuel 51x6) + 100 (batteries) + 100(gear) + 100(ice) is 2016. Coming home minus 30gallons fuel but add 300 for fish and 100+ of water for slush kicks it up to 2236lbs+!

FISHNFF
17 Alert/Montauk
90 Merc 4S
Pacific Galvanized trailer
Lenco trim tabs
BayStar hydraulic steering

lhg posted 01-10-2003 07:08 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
As an owner of an 18, I have heard several times that the 1250# advertized weight could be a little low, and that 1400 is more like it. But I have absolutely no way of knowing the truth. I have heard that all Boston Whalers vary in weight. The CPD 19 Guardian is shown at 1750#, 500# heavier, and the 22 Guardian is also shown to be 500# heavier than the recreational model. This does not make sense.

But even with twin 305# engines, I tow mine on a 2800lb capacity single axle trailer, no brakes, even with a full tank of gas.

dcace posted 01-10-2003 10:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for dcace  Send Email to dcace     
My 1984 outrage with t top, 200 rude, 1/3 tank of gas, 2 batteries, leaning post, anchor, tailer with spare weighs 3400 lbs.
pull nicely with F250.
Seems lighter than my old 17ft. 4inch Mckee.
Danny


truth stranger than fishing.


jimh posted 01-11-2003 10:49 AM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     
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