Early 80's 20' Outrage riding characteristics

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commodore posted 01-21-2003 08:08 AM ET (US)
How do the early '80s 18' and 20' Outrages compare regarding ride, deadrise, etc.? I am very familiar with the outstading ride and performance of the 18', can the same be said for a 1982 20'? Thanks for any input that can be provided
Dave

lhg posted 01-21-2003 06:31 PM ET (US)
The 1978-1984 20' Outrage has the shallowest deadrise, 12 degrees, of any of the second generation Outrages. It's a great looking, very lightweight boat for a 20, but was not as smooth riding as hoped. I have never been in one, but it's possible that an 18 Outrage would ride a little smoother. Only a hunch.
I happened to meet Bob Dougherty at a trade show, and when asked about that model, he indicated that he felt the deadrise was too shallow and hence the newer 1985 model, with 16 degrees, basically a shortened 22. Since this 20' model was the first of the now famous V-series Outrages, my guess is that he was conservative with the deadrise, so as to not sacrifice Whaler's famous lateral stability of the predecessor 19 & 21 Outrages. He immediately corrected this shallow deadrise situation with the 22, introduced one year later, with 16 degrees.
Watch out for OMC 150-175HP engines of the same generation on this model, as many have indicated a tendency to porpoise, even when fully trimmed in. Evidently the engine/transom combination would not allow enough "tuck-in" to prevent it under certain conditions.
commodore posted 01-22-2003 06:34 AM ET (US)
Thanks for the valuable info!
doobee posted 01-22-2003 08:06 PM ET (US)
20' and 22' hulls had some tendency to porpoise when they had too much weight aft. Quite often Doel Fin style fins contributed to the problem, making the boats too sensitive to trim.

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Author	Topic: Early 80's 20' Outrage riding characteristics
commodore	posted 01-21-2003 08:08 AM ET (US) How do the early '80s 18' and 20' Outrages compare regarding ride, deadrise, etc.? I am very familiar with the outstading ride and performance of the 18', can the same be said for a 1982 20'? Thanks for any input that can be provided Dave
lhg	posted 01-21-2003 06:31 PM ET (US) The 1978-1984 20' Outrage has the shallowest deadrise, 12 degrees, of any of the second generation Outrages. It's a great looking, very lightweight boat for a 20, but was not as smooth riding as hoped. I have never been in one, but it's possible that an 18 Outrage would ride a little smoother. Only a hunch. I happened to meet Bob Dougherty at a trade show, and when asked about that model, he indicated that he felt the deadrise was too shallow and hence the newer 1985 model, with 16 degrees, basically a shortened 22. Since this 20' model was the first of the now famous V-series Outrages, my guess is that he was conservative with the deadrise, so as to not sacrifice Whaler's famous lateral stability of the predecessor 19 & 21 Outrages. He immediately corrected this shallow deadrise situation with the 22, introduced one year later, with 16 degrees. Watch out for OMC 150-175HP engines of the same generation on this model, as many have indicated a tendency to porpoise, even when fully trimmed in. Evidently the engine/transom combination would not allow enough "tuck-in" to prevent it under certain conditions.
commodore	posted 01-22-2003 06:34 AM ET (US) Thanks for the valuable info!
doobee	posted 01-22-2003 08:06 PM ET (US) 20' and 22' hulls had some tendency to porpoise when they had too much weight aft. Quite often Doel Fin style fins contributed to the problem, making the boats too sensitive to trim.