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andygere posted 02-25-2003 12:23 AM ET (US)   Profile for andygere   Send Email to andygere  
Yesterday I finally got the boat (89 OR 22 Cuddy, '89 Merc 200, High Five 19" pitch prop) in the water for the first time since I sea-trialed it in October. All I can say is wow! The boat really gets out of the water fast, and 34 mph feels like 24 did in the Montauk. The big V-6 was just loping along at about 4000 rpm, and I had to do a double take on the GPS to confirm the speed. The Outrage hull felt very smooth and solid rolling over 6 foot swells, and the light chop was virtually unnoticeable. The boat feels like it is about twice the size of the Montauk, but is still nimble enough to single hand with relative ease. The 15 hp kicker will troll nicely, and pushed it to about 6 mph at wide-open throttle in sheltered water. I'll post a detailed performance report later on when all the "little projects" get done.
andygere posted 02-25-2003 12:24 AM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
Um...that would be first impression. I've got to learn to spell check the heading...
Clark Roberts posted 02-25-2003 07:38 AM ET (US)     Profile for Clark Roberts  Send Email to Clark Roberts     
Andy, here's a guess at top speed.. 48-50mph!
hooter posted 02-25-2003 09:35 AM ET (US)     Profile for hooter    
More like a friggin' freight train, she is. Reason she feels so much bigger is that she IS so much bigger. Checkin' the stats, the O/R 22' Cuddy O.B. hull weight is listed as 2,250 lbs, versus the Montauk hull's skinny li'l 900 lbs. Your new locomotive is, like, two and a half TIMES as much boat as a Montauk. Wonderful boat, sounds purdy sweet.
andygere posted 02-25-2003 11:03 AM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
Conditions weren't good for a top speed run, but we did 40 with plenty of throttle left. The T-top, albeit a small one, will probably cost me a few mph. I really like the throaty sound of that V-6...
kingfish posted 02-25-2003 11:27 AM ET (US)     Profile for kingfish  Send Email to kingfish     

To paraphrase what Louie Kokinis told me when I had just got my OR22, it's the " hull on the water...".

Reading your comments about the difference in size between your new boat and a Montauk, and Hooter's reference to a "freight-train", made me remember (very clearly) sea-trialling my boat just before I bought it.

I too had been driving a Montauk for a couple of years, and when we came back into the dock with the OR22, I was piloting, and when I slipped it into reverse to bring it up to the dock and stop, nothing happened! I had been coming in at dead idle, so we weren't landing hot in any way, but it felt like I had ventilated the prop or something - I was used to the Montauk stopping on a dime. I just about had a stroke right there on the spot! I wound up having to throttle up a *lot* more than I was used to in order to bring her to a stop, and she did stop before we compromised the value of the boat I was considering, but the whole thing took me by surprise.

I am used to it now, but the difference in weight from one boat to the other and the respective inertia involved is considerable.

Happy Whalering-


lhg posted 02-25-2003 03:27 PM ET (US)     Profile for lhg    
Sounds real nice, Andy. Do we have a new Mercury convert in the works?

Regarding top speed, if it is an issue for you, you might eventually want to consider a 4 blade "Offshore" or 3 blade "Mirage" prop, as Louie and Kingfish run (OMC version). Mercury now indicates the 5 bladed prop for flats/water ski and incredible hole shot, but the number of blades could impede top speed a little. If speed is not the issue, I hear those High Five's hang on like glue.

andygere posted 02-25-2003 03:50 PM ET (US)     Profile for andygere  Send Email to andygere     
Conditions in my waters rarely allow more than 40 mph, so top end is not a high priority for me. Good performance with a heavy load, and low planing speed are much more important. So far I like what I see.

In terms of Merc vs. OMC, I've owned 3 OMC's and now 3 Mercs. The Merc 40 on my old 13 was a screamer, but unreliable. I have learned from you and others on this forum that it was not Merc's best model, so I expect much better reliability out of the two I now own. In terms of the 200's performance, I am way stoked!

Bigshot posted 02-25-2003 03:57 PM ET (US)     Profile for Bigshot  Send Email to Bigshot     
Funny thing about "stepping up". I had a 15' whaler for a few years and stepped up to a 21' Scarab. Took a while to figure out I could not just "park" it with that long bow. I then bought a new 20" Hydra-Sports 2 years later, boat felt "short" but was close in size and I could reach the bow when docking. A few years later I was moving to FL so I bought a 24' Baja and when I launched it the first time, I never thought the bow would end. It was HUGE. Now I go from my Montauk to my Baja quite frequently and it does not bother me. When I had the 13' last you are talking small. My knees were in my chin and the montauk made that 13' feel like a bath toy.

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