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PSW posted 03-04-2003 10:33 AM ET (US)   Profile for PSW   Send Email to PSW  
Has anyone had any experience with hydraulic steering on their montauk. I replaced the teleflex cable steering and was not happy with the play in the steering wheel. I am looking at the new Hydraulic Bay Star package by Teleflex that is made for smaller boats. They are spendy but I can get one for $479 plus I can return the cable unit and the boat should steer like a dream. Any Thoughts?
Dick posted 03-04-2003 10:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for Dick  Send Email to Dick     
PSW

I think it would be a sweet set up, I have thought about doing it on my Montauk. The price of $479.00 is good, that is getting down close to dealer cost.

Dick

daverdla posted 03-05-2003 08:54 AM ET (US)     Profile for daverdla  Send Email to daverdla     
PSW,

I've been thinking about switching to the baystar system too. Where can you get it for $479? I stopped by Shoreway Marine yesterday for some odds and ends. I asked about the baystar and the counter guy said $530.

Dave

PSW posted 03-05-2003 10:39 AM ET (US)     Profile for PSW  Send Email to PSW     
My dad knows a guy that owns a harbour store and after my father and I redid his 25 tiara and spent like 15k over the past three years in outfitting the boat, he gives us a good deal on stuff since we do 99.9% of our business through him. If you go on the internet and search using google there is a site that has it for $499. Tore out the old system last night and will be installing after we get the new dash finished.

PSW

FISHNFF posted 03-06-2003 01:02 AM ET (US)     Profile for FISHNFF  Send Email to FISHNFF     
I installed A BayStar steering system on my Alert/Montauk last year and LOVE IT. I too had a problem with excessive play with the NFB system. Funny, I had no problems with my 1996 Merc 75, but went through steering systems annually when I installed a Merc 90 4 stroke. The play would get progressively worse. The install was very easy, but you do need 2 persons to bleed. The system does stick out a little more than the NFB, but is dead on precise!

FISHNFF

dchapp posted 03-06-2003 08:46 AM ET (US)     Profile for dchapp  Send Email to dchapp     
I installed the bay star hyd steering on my 85 w/ 100 yam 4s, It made a huge diff. That and trim tabs make the ride and handling alot better on the Montauk.
Guts posted 03-06-2003 08:49 AM ET (US)     Profile for Guts  Send Email to Guts     
I have hydrauic steering (sea star)works great! the best thing is when you let go of the wheel it will stay on corse, or for the most part. and it works well with a auto pilot. mine cost about 750.00 and did the install my self, it's not hard to do.
Guts
PSW posted 03-06-2003 10:50 AM ET (US)     Profile for PSW  Send Email to PSW     
Picked up the Baystar last night and it looks great. Can't wait to install it but I will have to wait until we finish the new dash unit. The Baystar is very compact and looks to be the perfect size. When I looked at the box I got a good laugh because I had read various reports on max horsepower and on the top of the box it says 150 on a sticker that if you peel off it says 140 underneath. The design and tech guys must have ran with 140 being the max hp before the marketing people realized the market they were missing and made a change on the box while it was on its way out of the factory. Just found it to be interesting.

PSW

tlynch posted 03-06-2003 12:17 PM ET (US)     Profile for tlynch  Send Email to tlynch     
I believe that the Teleflex website says that it can be used on 150 hp Engines, except for 'High Performance' 150hp engines.

For others looking, this might be a good deal:

http://www.stright-mackay.com/pages/asp/SubCategory.asp?SubCategoryID=759&CategoryID=4

Note that the price is in Canadian $.

www.surplusunlimited.com still has the best price for the seastar kit.

Todd

jay posted 03-10-2003 05:51 PM ET (US)     Profile for jay    
Is the hydraulic system that much better than cable system? Will it last longer?

Just posted on "repairs" some questions I have about how to replace my old Teleflex cable system since it stripped this weekend.

For comparison, how much is a good cable system?

captbone posted 03-10-2003 06:59 PM ET (US)     Profile for captbone  Send Email to captbone     
A good complete cable system go for $250.00 tops.
PSW posted 03-11-2003 10:02 AM ET (US)     Profile for PSW  Send Email to PSW     
I will be the first to admit that Hydraulic steering on a Montauk is a bit over the top but this new Baystar unit by teleflex fits the application perfectly. I started the installation process Sunday night and so far it is easy and looks great. I can't finish until I put the new dash in. I would get the no feedback teleflex if you just want a steering system and money is a concern, but if you want the smoothest steering system out there and are willing to spen some extra money then there is no other option. I think my situation may also be highlighted by the fact that I have a 115 on a Montauk.

PSW

hooter posted 03-12-2003 10:04 AM ET (US)     Profile for hooter    
What Ah'm about t'say is clearly not intended for those admittedly gone "over the top", so y'all just keep grinnin' at each other loony-like and ignore this. As to the rest of the sane readers out there that might be affected by this thread, hydraulic steerin' on a li'l boat the weight and power of a Montauk makes as much sense as buyin' a serious 18-wheeler rig just to tote that Montauk around on: absolute overkill, unnecessary and a total waste of good money. A simple single-cable steering system, properly installed and lubricated is all you will ever need on a Montauk. Keep it properly erled, and your li'l old gran'ma or baby-girl can steer like a champ. Put that $450 to better use, like toward your next Outrage 22" or larger Whaler. That's where the hydraulics can make an appreciable difference. Now, just keep on grinnin' there fellers, and the rest of'us here will just tiptoe on outta the loony-bin.
simonmeridew posted 03-12-2003 07:54 PM ET (US)     Profile for simonmeridew  Send Email to simonmeridew     
I'm with Hooter on this one. My Montauk/OMC 70 steers with one finger at any speed. Holds straight ahead at any speed. if the steering got any easier it would be by mental telepathy.
simonmeridew
PSW posted 03-13-2003 10:38 AM ET (US)     Profile for PSW  Send Email to PSW     
As I understand it is overkill I tried replacing the original teleflex unit when we got the boat and while the new unit was better there was still noticeable play in the new unit and it did not steer as well as it should. Rather than figuring out why the no feedback system on this boat would not work as smooth as it has on other boats I decided to just step up and buy the hydraulic. It is hands down a better unit. Only way that I will know if this was a good purchase is after about 100 hours of fishing, skiing, crabbing, cruising, and docking. Can't wait to find out.

PSW

Taylor posted 03-14-2003 02:35 AM ET (US)     Profile for Taylor  Send Email to Taylor     
I can't wait to find out either. Make sure you bring it to the Northwest rendezvous.

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