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Just ordered my new Montauk trailer.
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posted 05-13-2003 11:53 AM ET (US)
Loadmaster aluminum trailers are made in Brandon, FL just south of Tampa. They make just about every aluminum trailer made including OEM manufacturers such as Donzi, Hydra-Sports, Contender, Sea Craft, Wellcraft, Concept....the list is LONG.
Anyway they are among the best made trailers you can get. If anyone is interested in having one made let me know but this is the deal.
15-17' trailer with torsion axle, PVC guide posts, submersible lights, Alum diamond plate fenders, heavy duty 2 speed winch with strap. Galvinized hubs with some auto-lube stuff(not bearing buddies), 14" galvanized rims and Goodyaer tires. 3500lb capacity is $1135. I added stainless steel kit which means every bolt, nut, washer, u-bolt etc is SS. $110. I also got SS acorn lugnuts so mine won't rot off or on again $15. And LED taillights that are totally sealed and have a 10yr warranty $35. With tax out the door is about $1387. 14" aluminum mags(like bass boats use) are another $150pr but I did not get them.
Now the cool thing is they are making it for me so no decals are being put on the trailer. I gave him some custom made 18' long red Whaler harpoon decals(look like a red harpoon) which they will istall for FREE. This will be a bad looking rig for my montauk when done, especially with that little custom flair to it. This is my 3rd Loadmaster and I am very pleased. I will send a pic(when finished) to Jimh for any upcoming Cetacea article pertaing to trailers.
Never knew I could get so excited over a trailer.....puzzling!
posted 05-13-2003 02:11 PM ET (US)
Easy, big fella - although it does sound good.
posted 05-13-2003 02:20 PM ET (US)
You have given me some trailer advice in the past, and in fact talked me into buying "new". I have just posted a thread asking what the appropriate number of keel rollers are for my 13'BWS. The EZ loader I looked at has two (one fore and aft). I understand these are very important in trailering these boats. Any thoughts?
posted 05-13-2003 02:32 PM ET (US)
Sounds nice, Nick. Did you buy the upgrade to double Stoltz keel rollers on each crossmember?
Let us know how you like those new Spindle-Lube axles. I know Champion trailer and Continental are also now using this system. I have been afraid to try that system out, since although it pumps grease directly into the axle and to the back of the bearings, then purges it out the front, there doesn't seem to be any pressure device to keep water out. Bearing Buddies have worked for me so long that I'm afraid to try anything else.
posted 05-14-2003 01:27 AM ET (US)
I drove a loadmaster trailer up from Tampa to NH back in April. I have my 1972 Katama on it. I love this trailer. I stayed with the 13" rims, got the led lights and spare tire with hub, also full SS kit, and I also added a stolz roller to the vee bar and added two keel rollers to the back and middle cross members. I had to play around with the keel rollers to get them just right, but now that I have them adjusted I have good support with two 7' long bunks, and three big keel rollers. Also, I had Loadmaster shorten this trailer by 2' they did this by doing a shorter tongue wrap, like the continental trailer uses. This way the trailer fits in my shed.
Anyway I may go back down there in about 6 months and if anyone is interested I will bring some trailers back, need 5 to 7 people to make it worth the trip so let me know, can deliver along the east coast on way back to NH.
Blue skys to all, ~~~~Pete
posted 05-16-2003 12:19 PM ET (US)
Good idea Pete. I know one guy in SC that is interested.
I did not order keel rollers, I do not think they are necessary but that has been debated enough. If I did get keel rollers then I would have to get an electric winch and really get lazy. With my trailers I just drive it in and float it on and winch up the last 2 feet.....VIOLA!
posted 05-16-2003 01:31 PM ET (US)
How big is your boat? Have you noticed any ill effects from using a straight bunk trailer?
posted 05-16-2003 01:48 PM ET (US)
Did I tell you his boat has two long grooves in the bottom, where it sits on the 2 bunks!
posted 05-19-2003 10:23 AM ET (US)
No you didn't tell me, but I really appreciate the poignant observation. Good work.
posted 05-19-2003 11:02 AM ET (US)
Bigshot said the trailer was for his Montauk.
Lots of folks here (me included) have whalers
posted 05-21-2003 02:58 PM ET (US)
My boat is a 1989 and has always sat on a bunk. I have bunks that are cut on an angle and rest perfectly under both inside chines. If my chines can't handle the weight then Whalers are not worth a squirt of.......WD40. NO chine should EVER warp. If you have your bunks just resting on the flat part of the hull, better get some keel rollers.
posted 05-22-2003 06:51 PM ET (US)
Larry- I also have the spindle-lube axles. I like the fact that the back bearings recieve fresh grease when you lube them and that you can force most of the old grease out of the front without removing the hubs. I am installing Bearing buddies on the hubs to keep a little positive pressure on the system as well as to repace any grease that might escape. This seems like the best of both worlds. What do you all think?
posted 05-23-2003 01:37 PM ET (US)
My 15' Whaler weighs too much for my current trailer. And someday I plan to buy a 16/17. So if I have to buy a new trailer now, I would love to buy one that I could use with either boat (so if I did by a 16/17 I could sell that old trailer with my 15 and use the new trailer with my new boat). Would one of the trailers rated for 3500 pounds work with a 15 or would it just be too big?
posted 05-23-2003 01:46 PM ET (US)
I want one. Now. But I live in N. Calif. Any ideas?
posted 05-27-2003 01:48 PM ET (US)
The local Continental trailer dealer believes that a two keel-roller set up (with bunks, of course) is sufficient to support my 1980 Montauk?
Anyone have an opinion?
Should I pay up for dual keel rollers on each cross-member?
If my keel is already scarred from years of black rollers, is there any point in Stoltz rollers?
posted 05-30-2003 03:43 PM ET (US)
Royce - Be extremely careful of using a Bearing Buddy over the Spindle Lube!! The reason I say this is because I did this on my own trailer, and had a total failure, with wheel falling off, fortunately only in my storage yard. I think the end of the Spindle Lube did not clear the BB adequately, and the spindle lock washer came loose, allowing the bearings to fail.
If you have Spindle Lubes, I would not use the Bearing Buddies. Because the failure damaged my spindle, I replaced both axles with the conventional design and am again using Bearing Buddies. I'm just more comfortable with the older, proven design.
I have wondered for some time how the Spindle Lube system keeps water out of the bearings, absent pressure. That's why I'm afraid of it.
posted 05-31-2003 12:36 AM ET (US)
rubadub, BW says either all-bunk, or lotsa
keel rollers. Two keel rollers in the
Stoltz is really well made in more ways than
posted 05-31-2003 12:37 AM ET (US)
That should have read "two keel roller is IN
the in-between" (i.e. not recommended by BW).
posted 05-31-2003 06:34 AM ET (US)
Do you really need a trailer rated at 3500-pounds? Wouldn't a trailer rated at 2000 pounds be sufficient?
posted 05-31-2003 10:24 AM ET (US)
I chose an all aluminum, stainless steel Rolls Axle trailer. Incredible quality! I chose 17-19' 3500 capacity w/14" wheels. $1900. My 88 Montauk slides on and off w/ease and is a pleasure to tow at highway speeds.
Didn't see anyone mention this trailer in all my research on the Wave. Here's the link to the website:
posted 06-02-2003 12:00 PM ET (US)
I am thinking of stepping up to the 17-19 in case I do get my 18 outrage one day.....only another $150 or so.
posted 06-02-2003 12:01 PM ET (US)
Ps...reason for 3500lbs is the 14" rims. With the 13" it is 2700lb capacity.
posted 06-03-2003 01:36 PM ET (US)
Were they able to build and set up the bunks without the boat? Or do you have to adjust the bunks when you receive the trailer? I am wondering if they build so many trailers that they have templates to set up the bunks for common boat models.
posted 06-03-2003 03:58 PM ET (US)
They say they are able to set it up without the boat but i have already measured my bunks on my old trailer to compare. The new bunks are also going to be 4" shorter(lower) for a lower center of gravity. Should be sweet if I don't cancel my order first being my boat is in surgery.
posted 09-08-2004 08:24 PM ET (US)
If you are getting ready to make another trip I would be really interested in one of these trailers.
Please let me know.
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