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jeffwedge posted 07-08-2003 09:50 PM ET (US)   Profile for jeffwedge   Send Email to jeffwedge  
I have been searching through the ceteca and found a couple of whalers sporting a armsrtong bracket. This got me thinking could the benifits reaped by larger whalers also be as effective on my little montauk?

thanks jeff

jimh posted 07-08-2003 10:28 PM ET (US)     Profile for jimh  Send Email to jimh     

Since the cost of a nice Armstrong (or similar bracket) is probably around $2,500 (retail) it would be quite an expense to invest in a Montauk. I also seriously doubt that the transom of the Montauk could tolerate the load of a large setback bracket like an Armstrong 26-inch bracket.

The CETACEA collection shows many Montauk installations with smaller setback brackets, perhaps 4-10 inches, and these seem to be working well.

Backlash posted 07-09-2003 09:56 AM ET (US)     Profile for Backlash  Send Email to Backlash     

As jimh mentioned, the Montauk's transom was not designed for a full bracket. Most bracket manufacturers do not recommend a full (26"-30")bracket on boats under 21' or 22'. Several of them (Stainless Marine for example)do make mini setback brackets in 6",9",12",18" configurations. A normal(Springfield Marine)one-piece setback bracket makes the most sense for a Montauk since it bolts on to the transom using the existing outboard mounting holes.


T Party posted 07-09-2003 10:58 PM ET (US)     Profile for T Party    
When I repowered recently, I installed a 9" mini-setback bracket from Stainless Marine. I cannot tell you what a wonderful difference it has made. I wholeheartedly recommend it. The boat handles much better (particularly in a chop), is faster, has more room in the stern and has a shallower draft. Now, the fact that it's faster has something to do with the new motor, but even so, the bracket raises the engine up from where it was with the old engine (the anti-ventilation plate is now a bit over 3" above the bottom of the transom) so less lower unit is dragging in the water.

The static trim was affected by a little less than an inch in the stern, which I plan to try to ameliorate by moving the battery into the console sometime soon (like probably this winter at the rate I'm getting around to it).

Many others here have used similar devices with good results - it seems most use jack plates. Bigshot's jack plate can be seen on Cetacea page 67, and Cetacea page 41 shows the installation of a jackplate on a Montauk. There are several other photos of Whalers with either jackplates or setback brackets in the Cetacea section.

I have been delighted with mine.

Hendrickson posted 07-09-2003 11:07 PM ET (US)     Profile for Hendrickson  Send Email to Hendrickson     
I tried a tank style Gil Marine bracket on my 19 foot Searay bowrider. Went back to an I/O after a couple of years because the shorter hull allowed the powerhead to almost bury itself whenever getting on or off plane. The bracket seems like it would work fine (about 28 inches I believe) on a longer hull that would have more leaverage to keep the powerhead above water.

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