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|Author||Topic: Honda 115hp|
posted 08-30-2003 11:37 PM ET (US)
How does a 115hp Honda do for power for a 17' outrage ?I have a 1998 Outrage that nedds to be repowered Thanks BZ
posted 08-31-2003 07:52 AM ET (US)
I would check with Whaler to see whether your Outrage can handle the 500lb weight of a Honda 115 on its transom. I'll bet its over the maximum. If you have a conventional 2-stroke 115 on their now, it probably doesn't weigh much more than 350 lbs. An additional 150 lbs on the transom of your Outrage will make it ride differently with the increased possibility of porposing.
posted 09-06-2003 01:50 AM ET (US)
I agree. the Honda 115/130 weighs about 500 lbs, it's a great engine, but it is a bit heavy. A Honda 90 (at around 370 lbs) is probably the best bet if you want to go four stroke. BTW, Honda is coming out with a 135/150hp four stroke in October, and it is supposed to weigh 20 pounds less than the 130 (but still too heavy for you).
posted 09-06-2003 10:44 AM ET (US)
why honda?....I work @ a bw dealership....all new whalers come with mercs....merc and whaler owned by brunswick corp..
i just repowered my 04 170 montauk with 4stroke 115hp...efi........but 115 optimax 115 was second choice...4 stroke 115 merc weighs 386lbs...considerably less than honda
posted 09-06-2003 12:20 PM ET (US)
And if ya gotta have a Japanese name on the back, the 115HP Yamaha version weighs 402 lbs, still 100 lbs lighter than the Honda. Huge difference on a 17's transom.
posted 09-07-2003 10:54 PM ET (US)
Some guys like to send their laundry to Tokyo to get it done right. That guy down the street puts too much starch in the collars, I guess.
posted 09-07-2003 11:02 PM ET (US)
Jim, what are you trying to say?
posted 09-08-2003 04:35 PM ET (US)
Is he saying some things just don't make sense? Such as buying an 500# Honda 115, with NO electronic fuel injection, when you can get a Mercury 115 EFI that only weighs 386 lbs, or Yamaha version of the engine at 405#.
Regarding weight on the 2nd generation 17 Outrage, I know many came from the factory with 135 Optimaxs on them, at 435lbs. So the 500# Honda would probably work, but with a poor HP-to-weight ratio.
posted 09-09-2003 01:22 AM ET (US)
What is the max engine weight for the 17 Outrage in question? If it is under 500# than the Honda 115 would not be a good choice because there are many other engines with a better power to weight ratio. BTW the Honda 115 DOES have electric fuel injection and weighs 496#. Their 130 weighs the same so I don't see why anyone would opt for the 115 anyway.
posted 09-09-2003 07:32 AM ET (US)
I have seen a 17 Outrage II (1996??) with a Honda 115 and it appears to ride with the bow unnaturally high. Also, the motor looks quite large relative to the boat, almost out of scale. Honda should have painted its motors black to make them look smaller.
posted 09-09-2003 06:27 PM ET (US)
Peter - Just wait a little longer, and the black Hondas are sure to appear! Actually, in FL I saw a pair of the 225's custom painted black for a large yacht tender.
It seems to me that if one is going to put 500 pounds worth of outboard on a boat, it should be putting out 250HP like the Mercury 250 Optimax XS, not a measly 115.
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